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echo: philos
to: DAY BROWN
from: JOHN BOONE
date: 1998-01-01 11:56:00
subject: M R L insights

 On 12-25-97 Day Brown wrote to John Boone... 
 
        Hello Day and thanks for writing, 
  
 DB>  JB>   Day, I am not sure, given -any- two people having the same   
 DB>  JB> information will be in complete agreement.  They in fact   
 DB>  JB> may weight things differently thus arriving at different   
 DB>  JB> conclusions.    
 
 DB> Of course.  But as knowledge rests ever more in digital form, the 
 
  Please notice with the words "Of course" agrees with the point. 
The word "But" indicates the "Of course" is being negated. 
  
 DB> numbers either add up or not.  As we become more dependent on the 
 DB> answers we get, we will all get the same answers, and come to a 
 
  We have always been "dependent on the answers we get." 
I'll disagree with "more."  I will agree with "different." 
  Such statements negate "given the same information, people 
can come to different conclusions based upon values." 
   
 DB> more compleat agreement.  If Moore's law continues for *another* 
 
  There are some issues which aren't dependent upon "data", 
digital or otherwise, but rather values.  For you to say, we 
will have complete agreement on issue based upon values means 
we will have agreement in "values" which contradicts the 
supposition. 
  Day, this comes down to, will we or will we NOT agree on  
values.  I realize it has been you thoughts that "reason" 
alone or perhaps control the "values" thus giving a common 
basis.  It has been my contention rather that reason alone 
will not be sufficient. 
  
 DB> thirty years, I can hardly imagine anyone with the hubris to say 
 DB> that the global mainframe/database is wrong. Will GIGO still be  
 DB> around? If so, it will take a very deep mind to see it.  
 
  As I have pointed many times before, the data is often not
argued, but rather -how- the data is used.  I have given many 
examples pretaining the liberal mantra of "discrimination" 
based upon the "59% cliche" when the data is looked at from 
another point of view one gets another conclusion. 
  You almost seem to say the data is it. 
 
Take care, 
John 
 
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