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"For upcoming versions of its Microsoft's Media Center Edition
operating = systems, the computer will allow users to make a temporary copy
that can = be stored one day, but that cannot be used after that time.
"

This makes no sense to me. The whole point of time-shifting is to be = able
to watch something at your conveneince-not the providers. I can't = believe
that a 24-hr time-shift will be acceptable.

Then again, "stupid is as stupid does"....
  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:420c004f{at}w3.nls.net...
  Sounds like they are embedding it to me.   I suppose one way consumers =
have to punish them is just start a campaign against Longhorn as an =
anti-consumer product.=20

  =
http://news.com.com/Microsoft,+Macrovision+align+on+copy+protection/2100-=
1030_3-5557984.html
  Microsoft and copy-protection company Macrovision have struck a deal =
that will add a new layer of anticopying defenses to video content being =
swapped between home devices.=20

  The Macrovision technology has been one attempt to limit this. Rather =
than scrambling the signal altogether, as digital copy protection =
typically does, it includes a pulse of electronic energy along with the =
video as it is played. The pulse is meant to indicate the content should =
not be recorded. Many devices such as DVD recorders respect this signal =
and block recording if it is detected.=20

  Under the new deal, Microsoft's Windows Media software will recognize =
this signal when it is included in incoming analog video streams. For =
upcoming versions of its Microsoft's Media Center Edition operating =
systems, the computer will allow users to make a temporary copy that can =
be stored one day, but that cannot be used after that time.=20

  In future versions of its Media software, including the version in its =
next Longhorn operating system, Microsoft plans to support an upcoming =
revision of Macrovision's technology that will allow content to be = stored
for just 90 minutes, or up to a week.=20

    "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message =
news:420bfcf5{at}w3.nls.net...
    Q: Is Microsoft planning on embedding Macrovision technology in =
Windows?

    Yes, or no.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:420b9923$1{at}w3.nls.net...
         How does it differ?  Well it's a completely different quote on =
a different topic.  That's how it differs.

         George was wrong and you jumped on putting your foot in your =
mouth without checking whether or not George was correct first.

      Rich

        "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message =
news:420b0a58{at}w3.nls.net...
        "For the entertainment industry to deliver premium on-demand =
entertainment in the home, rights must be protected to prevent revenue =
loss. With about 10 million digital video recorders expected to ship in =
2005, a surge in demand for PCs running Microsoft Windows XP Media = Center
2005 and broad consumer adoption and use of digital media = technologies,
Microsoft and Macrovision are working to provide a = flexible rights
solution that allows the entertainment industry to take = full advantage of
new usage models for today's digital home. "

        How does that differ from what was said?  MacroVision is an =
analog technology and you plan to somehow marry it with Windows to =
"protect" "rights".  Those "rights" would
apparently NOT include the = buyers right to somehow insure they get to
injoy whatever they've bought = in the future. =20

        I assure you - being consumer hostile is not the way to success =
in business.

        The whole "loss of revenue" argument from these people has been =
proven bogus time and time again.  They whine with every new technology =
that comes along and their sales continue. =20

        "Rich"  wrote in message news:420ac9fd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
             You really ought to double check on george's embarrassing =
mistakes before embarrassing yourself too.

          Rich

            "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote
in message =
news:420abbf1{at}w3.nls.net...
            As the kids say: "pwned"
              "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:420ab27f{at}w3.nls.net...
              the quote was from your link. Didn't you even read the =
story you posted a link to?

              Geo.

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"For upcoming
versions of its =
Microsoft's=20
http://news.com.com/Media+Center+not+yet+a+home+run/2100-1046_3-5=
515378.html?tag=3Dnl">Media Center
Edition=20
operating systems, the computer will allow users to make a temporary = copy that=20
can be stored one day, but that cannot be used after that time. =
"
 
This makes no sense to me. The whole point of =
time-shifting is=20
to be able to watch something at your conveneince-not the providers. I = can't=20
believe that a 24-hr time-shift will be acceptable.
 
Then again, "stupid is as stupid =
does"....

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:420c004f{at}w3.nls.net...
  Sounds like they are embedding it to =
me.   I=20
  suppose one way consumers have to punish them is just start a =
campaign=20
  against Longhorn as an anti-consumer product. 
   
  http://news.com.com/Microsoft,+Macrovision+align+on+copy+protecti=
on/2100-1030_3-5557984.html">http://news.com.com/Microsoft,+Macrovision+a=
lign+on+copy+protection/2100-1030_3-5557984.html
  
  Microsoft and copy-protection company Macrovision have struck a =
deal=20
  that will add a new layer of anticopying defenses to video content =
being=20
  swapped between home devices. 
  
  The Macrovision technology has been one attempt to limit this. =
Rather than=20
  scrambling the signal altogether, as digital copy protection typically =
does,=20
  it includes a pulse of electronic energy along with the video as it is =
played.=20
  The pulse is meant to indicate the content should not be recorded. =
Many=20
  devices such as DVD recorders respect this signal and block recording =
if it is=20
  detected. 
  Under the new deal, Microsoft's Windows Media software will =
recognize this=20
  signal when it is included in incoming analog video streams. For =
upcoming=20
  versions of its Microsoft's http://news.com.com/Media+Center+not+yet+a+home+run/2100-1046_3-5=
515378.html?tag=3Dnl">Media Center Edition operating
systems, the =
computer=20
  will allow users to make a temporary copy that can be stored one day, =
but that=20
  cannot be used after that time. 
  In future versions of its Media software, including the version in =
its next=20
  Longhorn operating system, Microsoft plans to support an upcoming =
revision of=20
  Macrovision's technology that will allow content to be stored for just =
90=20
  minutes, or up to a week. 
  

    "Tony Ingenoso" <aingenoso{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:aingenoso{at}hotmail.com">aingenoso{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
    message news:420bfcf5{at}w3.nls.net...
    Q: Is Microsoft planning on =
embedding=20
    Macrovision technology in Windows?
     
    Yes, or no.
     
    

      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:420b9923$1{at}w3.nls.net...
         How does it =
differ?  Well=20
      it's a completely different quote on a different topic.  =
That's how=20
      it differs.
       
        
George was wrong and =
you jumped=20
      on putting your foot in your mouth without checking whether or not =
George=20
      was correct first.
       
      Rich
       
      

        "Tony Ingenoso" <aingenoso{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:aingenoso{at}hotmail.com">aingenoso{at}hotmail.com>
= wrote=20
        in message news:420b0a58{at}w3.nls.net...
        "For=20
        the entertainment industry to deliver premium on-demand =
entertainment in=20
        the home, rights must be protected to prevent revenue loss. With =
about=20
        10 million digital video recorders expected to ship in 2005, a =
surge in=20
        demand for PCs running Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 =
and broad=20
        consumer adoption and use of digital media technologies, =
Microsoft and=20
        Macrovision are working to provide a flexible rights solution =
that=20
        allows the entertainment industry to take full advantage of new =
usage=20
        models for today=92s digital home.
"
         
        How does that differ from what =
was=20
        said?  MacroVision is an analog technology and you plan to =
somehow=20
        marry it with Windows to "protect"
"rights".  Those =
"rights" would=20
        apparently NOT include the buyers right to somehow insure they =
get to=20
        injoy whatever they've bought in the future. 

         
        I assure you - being consumer =
hostile is=20
        not the way to success in business.
         
        The whole "loss
of revenue" =
argument from=20
        these people has been proven bogus time and time again.  =
They whine=20
        with every new technology that comes along and their sales=20
        continue.  
         
        "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:420ac9fd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        

            
You really ought =
to double=20
          check on george's embarrassing mistakes before embarrassing =
yourself=20
          too.
           
          Rich
           
          

            "Tony Ingenoso" <aingenoso{at}hotmail.com>=20">mailto:aingenoso{at}hotmail.com">aingenoso{at}hotmail.com>=20
            wrote in message news:420abbf1{at}w3.nls.net...
            As the kids say: =
"pwned"
            

              "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
=
wrote in=20
              message news:420ab27f{at}w3.nls.net...
              the quote was from your =
link. Didn't=20
              you even read the story you posted a link to?
               
              Geo.
              

                 =


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