CH> If A dog is beaten, it will remember the sent of the abuser. If the
 CH> dog smells that same scent on someone else it may well react the same
 CH> way he/she did toward the abuser especially if the voices and
 CH> appearance are similar. (male/female for example).

 PC>   Sorry, I fail to see where a sleeping dog via remembering scent
 PC> starts to run with his feet and howl with joy , and next he can be
 PC> there his
 PC> lips moving, and showing teeth and growling and alarmed.

 They're acting out behaviors. I am going to look this up because like
you I am baffled as well. I too think while dogs first line of sensory
perception is smell, then sight then hearing... they DO seem to
undestand certain words. It's uncanny you know? Maybe it is just the
sound... I'll Google Dog dream storides. :) Mabye we'll find
something. :)  Do dogs dream?

I think what Cesar might say is if the dog is 'having a dream' he is
proalbly channeling excess energy ... that way.... needs a walk.

I know how it is with me . If I don't get enough exercise I do not
sleep well. I am restless. Maybe that's true with dogs too.

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 PC> All scents in the area where he has his private area, are not present
 PC> and certainly not the lad that hit him with a rock...as that is sight.
 PC> He reacted on sighting this lad, and remembered him.   Air flow that
 PC> day was the other way ...all sight.

AH but Peter. How do you know that? :) Dogs can smell what we can't
smell. The scent might even be on his own body. :) Or on his bedding
(having laid there after a good hunt)...

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 CH> We all project. When we took our dogs to Kennel Kare last July they
 CH> acted OVERJOYED (!) by golly .. they remembered all the scents. What
 CH> they "forgot" though is that we'd be leaving them there
fora  week. Of
 CH> course they're always even a happier when we come back for them.
 CH> ((They don't really forget' because they have no memory of being left
 CH> before but they DO remember the scents of the place )

 PC> Nope.  He knew he was going to be left.   Didn't do it again and he
 PC> didn't come home with kennel cough and fleas.


 The Kennels here require you get your dogs shots for kenel cough.
 I think the dog "remembers" being left only if he assoicates a bad
 experience with being left.

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 CH> I'm assured that the dog does not lay around dwelling on things and
 CH> missing things. The dog is in the here and now. This is hard for us
 CH> because we're mostly living in the past and hoping for the future all
 CH> the time. Dog's don't do that. Frankly I think their way is better.

 PC>   Well I can not say I am assured.   The dog is a pack animal and they
 PC> did follow the herd doing cleanup and they do live in the NOW, thats
 PC> for sure.

  Yes, but they will follow any calm assertive leader once that leader
is accepted as a leader.

 CH> Plus while they don't recall the details of the past, they do remember
 CH> the lessons. Something humans have a lot of trouble with.
 CH> Humans dwell on the details so much they don't' even NOTICe E the
 CH> lessons. Which is why past mistakes keeps being repeated.

 PC>   I dog learns for his survival.   Lessons are taught and learnt.
 PC> These lessons are handed down, and are taught by example.

 yep.

 PC>   I find the dog always forgives.  He has to in the pack and accept
 PC> his position.

 I think they forgive because they don't remember in the first place.
Since they live in the here and now, they can't 'bear a grudge' or
feel guilty or any of that other human baggage stuff. .. Lucky them!
And we can do the same! Better off. Oddly dogs tend to learn from bad
experiences humans are bound to repeat...
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 PC>    Thats universal.    I have never hit my dog.  No point nothing
 PC> gained

 Me either. BTW I am happy to annonce Abbie now walks to my left when
we come to this MUD patch on the sidewalk in our park... How I got her
to do that is to stop before we come to it and gently steer her to my
other side. :) ((Efforts to simply pull her away  didn't work.))
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... Gravity always wins.

--- PPoint 3.01