On 07-06-09, ROSS CASSELL said to STAN HARDEGREE:

RC>> I can only arbitrarily lift feed cuts I have imposed in echoes I
RC>> moderate (note how you dont care about not getting into HOLYSMOKE
RC>> anymore, now that Ceppa left?)


SH> You killed Holy Smoke.  You are the second moderator to have done so.


RC>You mean by doing the very things you all wanted me to do?


RC>Tightening the rules..


RC>Getting Rid of Ceppa..


RC>Those things?


RC>Ceppa was a failed gamble, but thats not what killed the echo.

RC>The echoes brief revival consisted of his long time rivals seeing it as an
RC>opportunity to be inside the same echo he wanted to use and carry out long
RC>standing grudges.


RC>Dont deny it, I saw the same thing happen in the CROSSFIRE echo when he
RC>once used that echo, unfortunately both times, his reprisals for the
RC>attacks upon him rose above the levels of said attacks and I had to boot
RC>him from that echo as well.


RC>Now this doesnt speak well for Ceppa, but the comment I made to you
RC>yesterday is true, without Ceppa the HOLYSMOKE echo is no longer is on
RC>your radar and wont be unless I were to let him back in.


Then why don't you just close the echo down and be done with it! Nobody wanted
it made so fuckin' tight you can't hardly say anything to anybody.


Ceppa sounds off at people. If he isn't sounding off at people openly, he's
making little cutesy remarks and comments that are slams or insults at the
person he's talking to that he thinks nobody is going to catch on to, because
he thinks he's to clever to be caught at it.


If you hadn't given Ceppa `co' moderator status, and had just stayed out of
the way yourself, the echo would still be as lively as it ever was.


Stan didn't kill the echo. *You* did. The only thing left now is for you to
just officially take it `off the air'.






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*Durango b301 #PE*