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to: LEE LOFASO
from: JOHNJWILSON
date: 2009-04-13 16:10:54
subject: Re: Christians And Jews

-> Either there is one god, multiple gods, or no god.  Which is it?

Two!
 
-> JS>While Christianity, Judaism and Islam may all be monotheistic
religions,
-> 
-> That would mean one god, not multiple gods or no god.
-> 
-> JS>that most certainly does not mean that the participants in those
-> JS>religions are al worshiping the same God. The Jewish
"God" teaches
-> JS>that God has no son, and that He is one.
-> 
-> We are all of the blood of Abraham.  Jews, Christians, and Muslims
-> alike.  Belief in one God, all coming from the same family, is what
-> makes us brothers.
And you know what happened to the first of 'em...
-> 
-> JS>The Muslim "God" likewise teaches that God has no son.
-> 
-> Muslims refer to God as Allah.  So do many Christians.
-> Although Muslims do not accept Jesus (whom they call Isa)
-> as Messiah, it is not an absolute rejection.  By their
-> understanding, we are all "sons of God" rather than any
-> single individual being the "Son of God."
-> 
-> JS>The Christian God clearly teaches that God the Father is one, but
-> JS>that He has a Son who died for the sins of the world, in order that
-> JS>we might obtain Forgiveness, Salvation and Eternal Life.
-> 
-> Who knows what the Christian god teaches?
God is Love
-> Who knows what the Jewish god teaches?
God is one
-> Who knows what the Muslim god teaches?
God is great
-> Who knows what the Hindu god teaches?
Gods are everywhere
-> Who knows what the Buddhist god teaches?
Man's suffering can end.
-> Who knows what the Atheist god teaches?
You're better off not thinking about me...
-> 
-> Just because man might portend to "know" what a particular god
-> teaches does not mean that he really knows beans about anything.
Drat. If you has spelled pretend...it would have been the best line in
Fidonet...
Even with portend...(There's a lot of portending going on as well...)


-> 
-> We are taught to believe what others want us to believe.
Believe me that's wrong.

-> After all, who has seen the Face of God?  Not me.  Not you.
-> Not anybody else.  At least, not anybody that I know of.
-> 
-> To believe is to doubt.
-> One must doubt to believe.

I doubt that.

-> 
-> If I had seen the Face of God, I would KNOW of His existence.
-> Therefore, I would not believe.  It would not even be possible
-> for me to believe, as I would have no doubt.

Mostly people somewhat doubt, and almost believe...
Somewhat believe and have their doubts...this is why they have church
services again and again... 
...I believe (!) you are correct...those who are blessed with certitude
should be whipped, I'm sure of that.
. 
-> 
-> Jesus does not believe in God.
-> Satan does not believe in God.
-> 
-> Why should they?
-> Both have seen the Face of God.

-> 
-> JS>Obviously, all three gods can't be right, and two of them must be
-> JS>false...or are you suggesting that God likes argue with Himself and
-> JS>confuse people?
-> 
-> Who is to say any of those gods are right?
-> It is a matter of belief as to whether any one of them is right.
-> Or if any of them are right.
-> 
-> Belief is not dependent on proof.
-> We believe what we want to believe.
-> Whether that something is true or not.
-> 
-> None of the Apostles believed Jesus rose from the grave.
-> Not just Thomas.  Read the gospel accounts.  It's all in
-> there.
-> 
-> "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe." - Jesus
-> 
-> Jesus was not talking only about a doubting Thomas.
-> 
I hate it when you made sense. Not only is it unbecoming, it violates the
spirit of the echoes in which you participate. Shame on you. If you think
rational viewpoints are going to be accepted _here_, mister, you got
another think coming.

 
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