Ross Cassell -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 RC> Hello Ed!

 RC> 06 Jul 09 19:11, you wrote to me:

 EH>>>> So, tightening the rules killed HS?

 RC>>> At your request but that didnt kill HS..

 EH>> At *my* request?

 RC> Sorry, at the request of Ceppas collective rivals..

My only request was that you relieve Ceppa of his co-moderatorship and get
him to follow the rules you did have in place. That was echoed by everyone
else who participated there including Wilson.

 RC> I made a few at his request, but most were at the request of his rivals,
 RC> especially after all the complaints about his profanity and tag/sig line
 RC> crap.

Ceppa, from the very start, made it known that he did not want to follow
any rules. He appeared to think that his being co-mod gave him immunity
from being moderated. Everyone asked you to rein him in and asked why you
picked him of all people to co-mod the echo.

 RC> Whether it was specifically you or not, I resent the fact that I had
 RC> people crying for more rules at the time, getting them, not having a
 RC> problem with them at that time and then blame them later on.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Name just one person who asked for more rules. We all asked that you do
something about your pick for co-mod.

 RC> My intention was to allow those of faith and those not of faith, have
 RC> equal standing to debate religion, you are aware that the old HOLYSMOKE
 RC> was originally meant as a torture chamber for people of faith??

Ceppa and his lapdog Otto didn't want equal standing. They felt that HS was
their playground for bashing religion in general and Christianity in 
particular.

 RC> Obviously Ceppa had a hard time understanding my intentions, I told him
 RC> a thousand times privately, guess he was in denial as well.

Ceppa hasn't the capacity to learn. He will always be thick-headed.

 RC>>>>> Getting Rid of Ceppa..

 EH>>>> No, naming him co-mod in the first place. It gave him the idea
 EH>>>> that he could do what he wanted.

 RC>>> Had I had the Hulett Crystal Ball, I would have known.

 EH>> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 EH>> One does not need a crystal ball to see the obvious.

 RC> I believe in giving people a chance, he got his chance and pissed it away..

What on earth gave you the impression that he would do any different than he did?

 RC> Just as with Klahn, Ceppa can have a lucid moment or two.

Only when everyone agrees with them.

 RC>>> Actually, take him out of the equation and yes, that killed HS as
 RC>>> you know it.

 EH>> So, HS was just a vehicle for Ceppa to make vicious personal attacks?

 RC> It turned out that way, but in retrospect, HS *also* became a vehicle to
 RC> attack him.

How dense are you? When someone acts as Ceppa does they should only receive
scorn from others.

 RC> I am saying that some people came ito HS for that reason, I dont know
 RC> why you wont see that aspect?

Is that so? The very second anyone posted a reply to anyone in HS Ceppa and
Otto would post a vicious attack.

 RC>>> With him gone, the rest of you had no more a need to use the
 RC>>> echo.

 EH>> I hung around waiting for someone to offer something intelligent to
 EH>> discuss, but all we got was Wilson trying to wax poetic about his
 EH>> nonsense church.

 RC> As it turns out, it seems that Ceppa and Sauer are one of a few wanting
 RC> to debate using the atheist cause as their mantra..

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Name-calling and personal attacks do *NOT* have any place in debate.

 RC> Perhaps it is time to retire the echo, but if I do, I will do it on my
 RC> own terms, not because someone tells me to. (Comment directed at TR)

Good grief, grow a thicker skin.

 RC>>>>> Ceppa was a failed gamble, but thats not what
killed the echo.
 EH>>>> Ah, now you are on to something.
 RC>>> Yes, see above...

 EH>> I see you trying to feign ignorance about Ceppa's character above.

 RC> Ceppa revealed his true character when he went insane in CROSSFIRE and
 RC> in some of the fueds he has had with Roy Witt over the years, like I
 RC> said I wanted to give him a chance since he had a long standing history
 RC> with HS..

For crying out loud! How thick are you?

 RC> You should be saying good thing I didnt give him the echo.. Truth be
 RC> known, the fact that it wasnt given to him by Quarrella probably grates
 RC> on him, more than anything else.

If Quarella or you had given Ceppa HS I would have never ventured into the
echo again.

 RC>>> The echoes entire revival turned out to be a farce..

 EH>> With Ceppa and his lapdog Otto thinking they could act like children,
 EH>> of course it turned out to be a farce.

 RC> Does Sauer act any other way, anywhere else?

Otto has no capacity to act like an adult.

 EH>> I know no such thing. As I said, no one seemed to want serious
 EH>> discussions after you kicked Ceppa to the curb. I still have HS
 EH>> selected, but find nothing there to comment on.

 RC> Which only proves my point that many in there were only in there because
 RC> of him, which is what I said earlier.

Not in the least. The only person posting there is Wilson rambling about
his pretend church.

 RC>>> No but you hung in there, but I also tried calling his arse out
 RC>>> on that or did you forget that?

 EH>> I hung in there because I had truth on my side.

 RC> Of course you did.

As it turns out, yes, I did.

Ed

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