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to: Dale Shipp
from: Maurice Kinal
date: 2004-04-10 08:02:24
subject: Re: Dupe checking

Hey Dale!

Apr 09 23:35 04, Dale Shipp wrote to Bo Simonsen:

 DS>   Not so.   Squish has the ability to use two different sorts of
 DS>   duplicate checking.   One is based on MSGID.

Which can be duped without the actual messsage being a dupe.

 DS> The other is based on
 DS>   the header info (TO, FROM, SUBJ and DATE).  If *either* of these 
 DS> two
 DS>   things is a match, then Squish calls the message a dupe.

The problem with this is that often some of these fields are altered such
as the SUBJ field, which is quite common I've noticed.  Thus an actual dupe
could slip by or nondupes end up a dupes.  The DATE, containing time, is
based on the originating computer's time which can malfunction without the
computer malfunctioning (ie create unique messages all with the exact same
time and date).  The TO and FROM can be the same without the messages being
dupes.

The only true way is to check the actual message but I wouldn't do that for
every one coming through but instead if it fails any of the preliminary
tests then only those would get a more rigorous test ... maybe.  :-)

The thing is that there is too much broken, unsupported stuff out there and
far too many kludges being tacked on along the way by everyone and their
dog.  Personally I have gotten to the stage where I am just stripping
everything out of messages, minus the TO, FROM, DATE (<- ignoring it
though), and getting the originating nodenumber from the Origin. 
Everything else is known without jumping through hoops once they are
stripped.  Without compression I found that I average a 50% reduction in
archive size when compared to normal Fido archiving methods.

Life is good,
Maurice

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