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echo: rberrypi
to: A. DUMAS
from: ED VANCE
date: 2018-09-22 12:57:00
subject: Re: Raspberry Pi

09-22-18 14:29 A. Dumas wrote to Paul Hayton about Re: Raspberry Pi
Howdy! A. and Paul,

 AD> @MSGID: 
 AD> On 22-09-18 21:26, Paul Hayton wrote:
 > The Date: field contains the correct local time when I posted this via the
 > gateway (minus the +1200 it should (I still reckon) be flying too.)

 AD> No. Without the timezone it is invalid and meaningless. Your date
 AD> header in the post I'm replying to here says: "Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018
 AD> 21:26:25" which is still in the future in my timezone. So it gets
 AD> sorted wrongly. When using references headers (which apparently are not
 AD> always reliable either in your gateway because I see a couple of
 AD> orphaned replies from you) the whole thread gets sorted upfront because
 AD> one of the replies is supposedly newer than anything else.

The local time here is 11:41 A.M. EDT when I started this Reply to Your and
Pauls message(s), the Date here is September 22, 2018.

I don't have a Raspberry PI, I just like lurking in echos to (maybe) learn
a bit of things that I don't know.

I'm not a SysOp either, just a BBS User, but I wanted to write my thoughts
about this WORLDWIDE DATE TIME thingy.

The Date/Time is shown as 09-22-18 21:18 on Pauls post in the QWK packet I
got this morning.

Pauls later post showed that these Raspberry PI echo messages are getting
to the BBS I use by way of usenet and by my way of thinking "There isn't
any way a SysOp can tell usenet what Time/Date to use.

It would be nice if usenet converted the Time/Date to UTC/GMT Date/Time
instead of using the persons Local Date/Time.
I guess usnet doesn't do that."

In the mid-1980's when I began reading messages on a local BBS that was part
of the GTPOWER BBS Network, I remember reading messages written by someone
in Taiwan.

I was using a Commodore 64 with a VicModem300 to Log On to that BBS and was
glad to learn what others were saying about DOS and Win 3.1 , etc.
I only been using my pc (C=) for a couple of months when I learned of the
Telephone Number to call that BBS.

Before I found that GTPOWER Net BBS # I was calling a BBS that someone had
running on their Commodore 64.

A lot of my friends used APPLE ][, TRS-80, ATARI computers and for several
years earlier I had been using a few Amateur Radio RTTY BBS's on a VHF Ham
Band, and also using RTTY to chat with other Hams on other frequencies.

I used a Netronics ASCII Keyboard/Video Board Terminal with a 555 AFSK
Modulator circuit for Sending, and for Receiving I used a part of a RTTY
Demodulator circuit from an article in Popular Electronics made for a RTTY
Reader project.

My using that setup helped me to learn some about how computers work but
it was a while before I purchased a home pc to use.

In the over 30 years since I bought the C=64 I made up the Tagline below.


... Here On Earth Computers Alway Win Because They Have Inside Information
--- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
* Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)

SOURCE: echomail via QWK@docsplace.org

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