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to: Jeff Snyder
from: Lee Lofaso
date: 2009-04-14 16:53:28
subject: Re: Christians And Jews

Hello Jeff,

>LL>We are all of the blood of Abraham.  Jews, Christians, and Muslims
>LL>alike.  Belief in one God, all coming from the same family, is what
>LL>makes us brothers.

JS>Lee, that isn't exactly correct, and I am not sure from where you
JS>obtained that information.

The Book of Genesis.  And the Qur'an.  As well as the NT.

JS>More correctly, according to the Bible, we are all descendants
JS>of the three sons of Noah -- Shem, Ham and Japheth.

According to the Bible, every man, woman and child on the face
of this planet are descendants of Noah (and his sons).

JS>While it is true that Abraham and his descendants were Shemites,
JS>we are not all biologically descended from Abraham.

Abraham had two sons, Isaac and Ishmael.
Abraham had two wives, Sarah and Hagar.
Ishmael is the "father of the Arabs."
Isaac is the "father of the Jews."

Abraham was 86 years old when Ishmael was born.  Gen. 16:16
Abraham was 100 years old when Isaac was born.  Gen. 21:5

Therefore, Ishmael was 14 years older than Isaac.

A seal, or covenant, was made between God and man, through Abraham,
by circumcision.  That is found in Gen. 17:10.  Ishmael was circumcised
a year before Isaac was born.

JS>As you obviously realize, there are Jew Christians and Muslims of
JS>many different nationalities all around the world.

And all are of the blood of Abraham.

The term "we are all of the blood of Abraham" can better be understood
as being a reference to the common lineage of all peoples, rather than
to specific religions.  Two rap artists (Benyad and Mazik), known as
Blood of Abraham, express that viewpoint through their music.  Here is
a quote from Benyad -

"At first we were balls out militant about our heritage, but then we
realized that even though all these organized religions had separated,
they all recognized Abraham as a prophet.  So, in a sense we're all
from the Blood of Abraham."

BTW, both Benyad and Mazik are Jewish.

JS>Some are Shemites, some are Hamites, and some are Japhethites.

So what?  Jews trace their roots to Isaac.  Muslims trace their
roots to Ishmael.  Both Isaac and Ishmael were sons of Abraham.
Christians, early on, traced their roots to Abraham.  As such,
all Jews, Christians, and Muslims are of the blood of Abraham.

JS>Thus, not all Jews, Christians and Muslims are of the blood of
JS>Abraham.

You have obviously missed the point.  Entirely.  :)

JS>What is most important is not our physical bloodline, but rather
JS>whether or not we have been washed in the Blood of Jesus Christ.

Jewish males are missing a piece of foreskin.  Christian males are
missing a piece of foreskin.  Muslim males are missing a piece of
foreskin.  Is that what makes a Jewish male a Jew?  Or a Christian
male a Christian?  Or a Muslim male a Muslim?  What about males
who have not had that bit of flesh removed?  Are they damned?
What about females?

--Lee


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