Hello Ed!

06 Jul 09 19:11, you wrote to me:

 EH>>> So, tightening the rules killed HS?

 RC>> At your request but that didnt kill HS..

 EH> At *my* request?

Sorry, at the request of Ceppas collective rivals..

I made a few at his request, but most were at the request of his rivals,
especially after all the complaints about his profanity and tag/sig line
crap.

Whether it was specifically you or not, I resent the fact that I had people
crying for more rules at the time, getting them, not having a problem with
them at that time and then blame them later on.

My intention was to allow those of faith and those not of faith, have equal
standing to debate religion, you are aware that the old HOLYSMOKE was
originally meant as a torture chamber for people of faith??

Obviously Ceppa had a hard time understanding my intentions, I told him a
thousand times privately, guess he was in denial as well.

 RC>>>> Getting Rid of Ceppa..

 EH>>> No, naming him co-mod in the first place. It gave him the idea
 EH>>> that he could do what he wanted.

 RC>> Had I had the Hulett Crystal Ball, I would have known.

 EH> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 EH> One does not need a crystal ball to see the obvious.

I believe in giving people a chance, he got his chance and pissed it away..

Just as with Klahn, Ceppa can have a lucid moment or two.

 RC>> Actually, take him out of the equation and yes, that killed HS as
 RC>> you know it.

 EH> So, HS was just a vehicle for Ceppa to make vicious personal attacks?

It turned out that way, but in retrospect, HS *also* became a vehicle to attack him.

I am saying that some people came ito HS for that reason, I dont know why
you wont see that aspect?

 RC>> With him gone, the rest of you had no more a need to use the
 RC>> echo.

 EH> I hung around waiting for someone to offer something intelligent to
 EH> discuss, but all we got was Wilson trying to wax poetic about his
 EH> nonsense church.

As it turns out, it seems that Ceppa and Sauer are one of a few wanting to
debate using the atheist cause as their mantra..

Perhaps it is time to retire the echo, but if I do, I will do it on my own
terms, not because someone tells me to. (Comment directed at TR)

 RC>>>> Ceppa was a failed gamble, but thats not what killed the echo.
 EH>>> Ah, now you are on to something.
 RC>> Yes, see above...

 EH> I see you trying to feign ignorance about Ceppa's character above.

Ceppa revealed his true character when he went insane in CROSSFIRE and in
some of the fueds he has had with Roy Witt over the years, like I said I
wanted to give him a chance since he had a long standing history with HS..

You should be saying good thing I didnt give him the echo.. Truth be known,
the fact that it wasnt given to him by Quarrella probably grates on him,
more than anything else.

 RC>> The echoes entire revival turned out to be a farce..

 EH> With Ceppa and his lapdog Otto thinking they could act like children,
 EH> of course it turned out to be a farce.

Does Sauer act any other way, anywhere else?

 EH> I know no such thing. As I said, no one seemed to want serious
 EH> discussions after you kicked Ceppa to the curb. I still have HS
 EH> selected, but find nothing there to comment on.

Which only proves my point that many in there were only in there because of
him, which is what I said earlier.

 RC>> No but you hung in there, but I also tried calling his arse out
 RC>> on that or did you forget that?

 EH> I hung in there because I had truth on my side.

Of course you did.

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