On 07-06-09, ROSS CASSELL said to TIM RICHARDSON:


RC>Hello TIM!


RC>06 Jul 09 17:33, you wrote to me:


TR> *You* came along and changed the format, and not only that gave Ceppa
TR> the second seat power slot!


RC>and you had to come running in to fight him..


Nobody was `fighting' anyone. HolySmoke was a *FLAME ECHO*.....until you came
along.


RC>> and you dont think this isnt a two-way street, that in no way,
RC>> shape or form, you all have had none, zero, nada, culpability?


TR> Nobody is saying it ISN'T a two-way street! Ceppa is a mouth-off
TR> little puke who can dish it out, but he can't take it. Without a
TR> moderator or co-moderator hat to hide behind when he's getting back
TR> what he dish's out, Ceppa is equal to everyone else. He gets
TR> foul-mouthed at the drop of a hat, he talks like a little gutter snipe
TR> most of the time anyway.


RC>Be that as it may, why did you come into the echo then?


Why did *you* stoke the echo back again? For sweetness and light?


TR>> If you hadn't given Ceppa `co' moderator status, and had just
TR>> stayed out of the way yourself, the echo would still be as lively
TR>> as it ever was.


RC>> I was out of the way before then, remember the echo was still under
RC>> my control, yet it interested none, dont bullshit me here Tim.


Nobody *knew* it was `under youor control'...at least `I' didn't. And whenever
you `took over control' must have been the most un-advertised takeover in
Fido.


TR> No you weren't! Don't bullshit YOURSELF! *You* came in here with the
TR> intention of taking what was for many years nothing more than a flame
TR> echo, and tried turning it into a tea-and-crumpets echo.


RC>I was the co-moderator of Holysmoke and maintained its elisting, for the
RC>past 5 years prior, only this past winter did Seaborn and I determine
RC>Steve wasnt coming back when we noticed his nodelisting drop from the


Nobody *knew* that except `you'. I didn't know anything about that until you
stirred up the dying embers last year. Don't try to present some sort of case
that flimsy with me, Cassell.


RC>nodelist. So you can quit trying to rewrite history.


I'm not trying to "rewrite" anything. It appears to me that *you*
are making
history up on the fly, `cause you're talking about stuff nobody knows except
you, and you're telling it any way you choose.


RC>> The minute Ceppas name up, you all flocked in like knights of the
RC>> crusades. My message base goes back one year, do you need a
RC>> timeline?


Look, stupid: You wanted the echo revived. You lifted all the bans. This was a
*FLAME* echo for all the years I can remember. I don't need a `timeline'.
There's no `timeline' involved. HolySmoke is a *FLAME* echo. Or at least it
was until you changed the format.


TR> I don't need any timeline, but obviously *you* do. Most of the people
TR> who are no longer posting in here (again!) were banned from here for
TR> many years.


RC>I reversed those bans until I was proven wrong to have done so.


And when they were reversed, people came back. Now they are back in place,
people are gone again. Gee......I wonder if there might be a connection!


RC>> I never accused Stan of killing the echo, the echoes revival was a
RC>> farce... It was Ceppa and Sauer whom gave you all any reason to
RC>> want to come into it at all..


If you had just left the previous format of the echo alone, left Ceppa as just
another poster and not elevated him to the co-mod seat, and stayed out of the
way, the echo would no doubt be thriving right now.


TR> Then if you're so concerned about it.....turn the echo over to Ceppa
TR> or Sauer, or both of them....and just go away.


RC>On your say so, right?


No, not my *say-so* smart mouth! That is a *suggested* solution for you since
you seem so fraught over the fact that nobody's in HolySmoke drinking tea out
of little pink cups, and discussing the weather in the Holyland on Crucifixion
Day.


TR> You're just anal-retentive over the fact that Ceppa\Sauer\and some
TR> others...hate and despise Hardegree\Richardson\Binkley\and some
TR> others, and neither group desires to have any *nice* discussions over
TR> tea and crumpets in here.


RC>and none of you hate them back, is that what you are trying to say?


What do you care? What are you trying to do, make us all want to marry each
other?


RC>Nevermind, your behavior is always someone elses fault, you are the
RC>victim, right?


I'm not a *victim* of anything, asshole. I'm a poster in Fido who stands up
for himself when attacked. I have issues with Ceppa and Sauer that go back a
lot of years. I don't forget, and I'm not the forgiving type.


I made a statement to you about the HolySmoke echo in my last message, a
`challenge' actually. Either take it, or shut up about it!


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