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| subject: | Re: Song in `The Face of the Enemy` (417) |
Amy Guskin wrote: > I used to do this for a living -- compare pieces of music and decide > whether > or not one was an infringement of the other. As I said, there are > definite > similarities, but I'd honestly be shocked and surprised if Christopher > Franke A) knows the PJ Harvey song, and B) would have 'paid homage' to it > in such a way. When a good songwriter likes someone else's song, and > wants > to pay homage to it -- or write something similar -- or evoke it -- etc. > etc., what they usually end up with is something that sounds COMPLETELY > different to the average listener, although usually a trained composer > would be able to spot the similarities/homages. I can only suggest that you listen to a left--right comparison, then, with the bar music in the left channel and the Harvey song in the right. I can send just such an MP3 file - completely unfudged for speed - to you for the purposes of scholarship only, if you are interested. I think you'll find that rhythmically and in many other ways it is strikingly similar. Put it this way: even the pause before the first 'verse' is replicated *exactly*, and by the end of the second 'chorus' (when the bar music cuts to the 'takedown' cue) there is a disparity of only a microscopic fraction of a beat between the two. It's really that close a match. > I almost spit out my coffee once when my husband mentioned that Van > Halen's > "Jump" was the inspiration for one of his most beautiful, early songs, but > once I stopped spluttering and going "HUH??" and stopped to think about > it, > I could see exactly where it came from, where the two songs crossed. But > it > had to be pointed out to me. Seriously, no decent songwriter would have > written something like we hear in "The Face of the Enemy" as a > _deliberate_ > homage to a song that sounded very much like it. The similarities are > probably just coincidental (and there are probably dozens of other songs > out > there that sound just as similar to Harvey's). I hear what you say, Amy, and recognize the truth of it. I honestly have view on the coincidence or otherwise of this. I am imputing no motive of any sort to anyone; I merely point out what I hear. If you were to hear it I think you'd be amazed too. Bruce --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32* Origin: Time Warp of the Future BBS - Home of League 10 (1:14/400) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 14/300 34/999 90/1 106/1 120/228 123/500 134/10 140/1 222/2 SEEN-BY: 226/0 249/303 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1410 1417 1418 266/1413 SEEN-BY: 280/1027 320/119 393/11 396/45 633/104 260 262 267 690/682 734 SEEN-BY: 712/848 800/432 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 105 109 200 2905/0 @PATH: 14/400 5 140/1 261/38 633/260 267 |
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