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to: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
from: Charlie E.
date: 2011-01-21 12:17:50
subject: Re: Pioneers of Television - Science Fiction

On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:40:11 -0800, Steve Silverwood
 wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:42:19 -0800, Charlie E. 
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:36:23 -0600, cmadams{at}hiwaay.net (Chris Adams)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Once upon a time, Blair Leatherwood 
 said:
>>>>Was anyone else disappointed that there was no mention
whatsoever of The 
>>>>Outer Limits?
>
>>>Yes.  It seemed very Trek-heavy to me.
>
>>It was mentioned, something about stations blacking out certain scenes
>>because they were too intense, but they really just focused on the
>>three 'seminal' series - Trek, Lost in Space and Twilight Zone.  Bill
>>got a lot of air time, though, as a veteran of two of those series.
>
>How in the WORLD did "Lost in Space" show up as a "Pioneer of
>Television?"  It was the cheesiest SF show I've ever seen.  Trek was
>probably the biggest contributor in this area, and the Zone was also a
>big mover in pusing the boundaries, but B5 certainly rates a mention
>well ahead of Lost in Space deserving one.  
>
>Stargate SG-1 should also have appeared on the list -- after all, they
>went for TEN SEASONS (something no other SF show has EVER done) plus
>two direct-to-DVD feature films, and SG1 fans are STILL asking for
>more.  Even Trek TNG only went for something like seven seasons plus,
>what, four movies?
>
>-- //Steve//

Steve,
Lost in Space basically was the first of the Irwin Allen series.  It
made Time Tunnel (mentioned as the most expensive), Voyage to the
Bottom of the Sea, and all his other shows possible.  It also had to
contend with Batman at the time, so the interactions from the 'suits'
on LiS, Trek, etc. all were effected by ratings expectations from
Batman.

As for SG1, B5, or even BSG, these were the next generation of stories
AFTER the pioneers.  Also, these choice reflected on the spectrum of
shows, from very serious TZ, serious but entertaining Trek, and the
campy, almost children's show LiS.  I enjoyed it quite a bit, but
fully realized that in an hour you weren't going to cover but a bit of
the real territory.

Charlie
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