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echo: educator
to: CHARLES BEAMS
from: RICK PEDLEY
date: 1996-08-06 09:54:00
subject: `puter-tech curriculm

-=> Quoting Charles Beams to Rick Pedley <=-
 CB> I find it interesting that you choose to attack me personally ("you
 CB> have  faltered," "your problem,") rather than to offer evidence that
 CB> teaching  6th grade kids to program will result in more and better
 CB> programmers as  they become adults.  You offer nothing in the way of
 CB> experience and  nothing in the way of data to support your position.
 CB> As I've mentioned  elsewhere, I taught LOGO to 6th graders for 5 or 6
 CB> years and felt that  many of them were not yet ready for it, others
 CB> simply had no interest.   There were a few kids that I taught who fell
 CB> right into it, but they  were few enough in number that I do not think
 CB> it warrants taking time  from instruction in other basic skills
 CB> associated with computers in the  classroom.
Not really an "attack", but yes "you" because you made those original
comments, unless you're claiming someone else is responsible for them..
I did misunderstand your earlier position, because it seemed you didn't
think _anyone_ should be taught to program; later on it became clear you
are against teaching programming to all young children, and I have no
real argument with that -- only with going around saying "Nobody needs
to write programs", a remark I heard all too often even at the senior
high school level by teachers who were frankly too damn lazy to learn
to program themselves.
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