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echo: guns
to: PAUL NIXON
from: STEVE GUNHOUSE
date: 1996-08-02 00:00:00
subject: lost messages

 -=> Quoting Paul Nixon to Steve Gunhouse on 30 Jul 96  07:08 <=-
 Re: lost messages 
 SG> Handgun License.  If you have failed to pay taxes, defaulted on a
 SG> student loan, or failed  to pay child support then you are not eligible
 SG> for a CHL. They don't  check your credit rating or income, but they do
 
 PN> *ou consider that to be "within reason"?
 
 SG> Well, yes, in the sense that we have allowed them to grant us
 PN> Okay...
 
 SG> As I say, we shouldn't need licenses in the first place. But as long
 SG> as  there are licenses, they have the power to revoke them or refuse to
 SG> issue them given sufficient cause. Totally reasonable. Built upon a
 SG> false  premise, but logically consistent.
 PN> You sound like Mr. Spock .
Actually, like a math teacher. 
 PN> True, it is logically consistent for them to create restrictions. 
 PN> OTOH I do not believe that _any_ restriction of a right can be moral.
 PN> Logic ain't always "right."
"Logical consistency" means that we ignore the validity of the base 
assumptions and merely see if the conclusion follows from them. If the 
assumptions are not valid (are "wrong"), then it is not surprising if the 
conclusion is.
There's a famous mathematician who said that he could prove anything 
based on a false assumption. Someone was stupid enough to challange him 
on it. This other guy said "Okay, assume 2=1. Now prove I am the Pope."
The mathematician immediately answered: "2=1. You and the Pope are two. 
Therefore, you are one!" ;-)
Steve
... Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface.
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