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to: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
from: lizardgirl
date: 2011-01-21 18:55:36
subject: Re: Pioneers of Television - Science Fiction

On Jan 21, 5:16 pm, Brian O'Neill  wrote:
> On 1/21/2011 2:35 PM, Doug Freyburger wrote:
>
> > Charlie E. wrote:
>
> >> but they really just focused on the
> >> three 'seminal' series - Trek, Lost in Space and Twilight Zone.
>
> > Every list of three seminal series I've ever heard from a long time fan
> > is Outer Limits, Twilight Zone and Star Trek in any order.  Until
> > Babylon 5 came out. By then shows were poineers "on"
television not
> > poineers "of" television.
>
> > Lost in Space is fun and campy but was it really any more important than
> > Fireball XL-5, The Starlost or UFOs?
>
> The Starlost in my mind would be very questionable on such a list. It
> was great in concept, but very little of it panned out. The studio execs
> got too much control, the creator abandoned it, the special effects guy
> failed to create the promised system and they had to fall back to crappy
> chroma-key effects, etc.
>
> The whole story got fictionalized in an interesting book, actually, by
> Ben Bova (who was the science advisor), called "The Starcrossed".
>
> There was an attempt to being back the original concept/pilot script as
> a feature movie with Sony, but it fell into Development Hell.
>
> UFO was Gerry Anderson's first live action show, but it only survived
> for a single series when a strike interfered with production, and it
> eventually died. Space: 1999, which was born out of ideas for the second
> series of UFO, gained life on its own, dropping some of the more cheesy
> elements and better effects. Space: 1999 got far more play in the US,
> but I think Lost In Space was far ahead in terms of being a part of the
> culture.
>
> -Brian
egregious as B5 omission is surely Ark II qualifies is some way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_lcQUdxxE
lg
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