>  > Bob? All it is is a room with west and a north facing window. For
 > 
 >  CS> No Cindy, it's not but many people try to advertize a place as having
 >  CS> a true sunroom with just that.  The real thing is ceiling to floor
 > 
 > Yeah they do. I know that :) This is not a floor to ceiling window. My point
 > they're trying to use 9 ft celing as a sell point. I find it
 > redicualous is all.. you see most homes with so called soaring

I dont want soaring ceilings but I have one use for a room with a slightly
high spot.  Antique grandfather clock.  Needs 8ft 1 inch to fit.  Since the
spires and globe above are lost to antiqity, it no longer needs a 12ft
ceiling .

The clock isnt with us, but it might be in time.  The realtor when we bought
this house thought we were nuts looking about for a spot where it was just
high enough.  Yup, got one.  Not obvious to the eye but a section near the
fireplace hits 8'2" and a level shows it contunes that way far enough to fit
'grandpa'.

 > ceilings have LARGE floor to celing WINDOWS and the celings are 10 ft
 > or more in some aresa such as the foyer. How do I know this? Well
 > Trying To Sell one, for one thing.. yup.
 > 
 > And there's hundreds similar to it.

Well, my place isnt real fancy but realtors get all excited when they see it.

Reasons are several.  

- less expensive neighborhood but a very nice one, affordable to purchase by
E5 level military with dual income (second one need not be much), easy by E6
income (easier with 2nd income but you can make a go on single income).
- Best Grade school in area, 2nd best middle school, best high school
- bigger than the other houses in the area, has to sell slightly below due to
area price
- Curb appeal has dropped down but only due to easily worked plants renters
didnt maintain and those are being fixed up
- New siding
- 3br, 1.5 bath and sunroom though codespec cant be called a 4th br, it is
.
- Fully fenced at backyard with gates on each side, though we need to repair
some of the fencing still. (2,000$ max to have it done professionally)
- Garage is still a garage so you can park a car in it.  Garage has built in
shelving in most of it with tables suitable for woodworker shop etc.
- 40x11 ft fully screened back porch with sliding glass door from kitchen and
soon to be nicer french glass door from sunroom
- wood fax beams in living room matching cherry wood walls (not cheap
paneling, real stuff)
- Working well drafting fireplace in living room
- late 50's style kitchen with dark wood cabinets (detraction here, has not
the counterspace of a later modern kitchen but was designed to have the
'kitchen table' in there so it's big).
- Gas oven, hot water, and heat (cheaper here by far) and your usual whole
house AC (ceiling type, not floor).

Yeah, we get called by realtors all the time if we want to sell.  In fact, we
get offers to buy when it's not on sale.

The main problems are cosmetic ones left from the renters and age.
 > If a place advertises 9 ft celings as ist Most Attractive Feature..
 > you gotta wonder about the  qualities of the basic amenities.

Yup.  Like, my place could be advertized also as ADA compliant except for the
bathrooms which would need removal of a clost, sink enclosure, and widening
of the doorway to get a wheelchair in.  The rest, is within spec though I may
have to widen the brick walkway to the built in brick grill out back as well.
 Pretty sure ADA specs would mandate that as it's a built in thing and you'd
have to roll your chair over grass.  (walkway is but 2 bricks wide just now).

 >  CS> windows (may have knee high no-see-through panels if desired and still
 >  CS> qualify.
 > 
 > These windows are just your regular standard type windows.

Does not then in my view, qualify as a sunroom.

 >  CS> The direction of the window isnt all that relevant.  Mine for example
 >  CS> are south and west plus we will adapt later to add north (east blocked
 >  CS> by the house).
 > 
 > 
 >  They are relevant if you want maxium sunshine. If you have plants
 > requring a lot of sun, a south exposure gets the best especially in
 > the wintertime. :)

Yeah but a house design may not allow for any specific direction.  For
example, mine it has to be at the back.  It's pretty much a rebuild of the
corner of a larger enclosed porch, being redone *right*.

 > In Texas if you have big windows facing east and west you better get
 > solar screens. ah..  Big business there. They're ugly but they do cut
 > down on the utility bills depending on what percent blockage you get.
 > We got the 80% on the west facing windows. This percent allows low
 > light requirment plants to live. I don't like the screens as they make
 > the house dark. Glad we don't need them in FL. Doesn't get as hot as
 > it does in TX in the summer.

I plan to have lots of ceiling to floor curtins along the sunroom walls,
whichg can be opened to allow screened windows have airflow.
              xxcarol
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