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echo: holysmoke
to: JOHNJWILSON
from: God Dan
date: 2009-03-02 11:29:16
subject: Factual error...

-> On 01 Mar 09  22:31:44, JOHNJWILSON got back to GOD DAN 
-> Re: Factual error...

 -> Couldst be!  I find very few ministers come remotely close to following
 JO> what
 -> their
 -> supposed founder commanded them to do...

 JO> This is true (and a major disappointment of mine) BUT -- his teachings
 JO> didn't start a church...early Christians mainly had Faith (Not belief,

Similar happend to Buddha.  

 -> Most denominations hold to the same basic beliefs...

 JO> Well,,,,the mark of a theologian is his infinite capacity to make
 JO> distinctions...:-)

My favorite is the need to know how mant angels can dnce on the head of a pin.
 

 JO> I think churches that ban fun things
 -> like music to be quite suspect in their interface with the real world.

You really need to do something about your quoting! 

 JO> The flag of distinction...The satisfaction of being a little
 JO> different...The  real quarrel I have here is music 'being fun'. I
 JO> think it is profound, provocative, entrancing: "Without music, life
 JO> would be a mistake." (Nietzsche).(If there was any justice, My
 JO> piano-playing would be a federal crime.)   

No one said everyone has to have musical talent.  And, based on _American
Idol_, even that isn't a detriment.  

 JO> Money is power, influence. Sometimes a whip helps :-_
 
 ->  Other churches aren't much different...
 JO> Yer talking big churches. There are tens of thousands of small
 JO> churches honestly run by sincere pastors. And churches that are failing

Their goal, to be the one trVue Church, implies they all want to be the
biggest.  

 JO> time and
 -> the others are playing catch-up.
 JO> I can hear it now: "Go, Luther, go! C'mon baby, let's make it
happen!"

I can't picture Lutherans cheering like that. 



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