*** Quoting Craig Dooley from a message to All ***

 CD> Are either of those nets active?  I sent in emailed requests to join
 CD> both of  them last month, and have never heard back.  I'm wondering
 CD> if they are just  dead,or if the emails you send apps to are no
 CD> longer checked.

Scinet is pretty active.  Frank/Netsurge processes applications every so 
often, I think I waited about 6-8 weeks and then he got back to me.

Jay

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