On Mar 26, 3:04=A0pm, yawnmoth  wrote:
> On Mar 26, 1:03 pm, Craig  wrote:
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> > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:47:41 -0700 (PDT),yawnmothwrote:
> > > Quoting the Lurker's Guide, "Londo has already passed
up two chances
> > > to avoid the destiny he fears awaits him. There will be
three more. He=

> > > must save the eye that does not see. He must not kill the one who is
> > > already dead. And failing those, at the last, he must surrender
> > > himself to his greatest fear, knowing that it will destroy him."
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> > > The bit about him not surrendering himself to his greatest fear
> > > presumably refers to his blowing up the island of Selini. =A0The bit
> > > about him not killing the one who is already dead presumably
refers to=

> > > his not killing Mr. Morden. =A0But what about the bit about
him saving=

> > > the eye that does not see?
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> > Actually him surrendering himself to his greatest fear I think is his
> > referrring to his giving himself over the keeper/Drahk control. One thin=
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> > we've seen about Mollari throughout the 5 seasons is that he hates not
> > being in control of himself and his destiny. This I think would be his
> > greatest fear.
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> If the Drakh is "his greatest fear", what's the
"destiny that he fears
> awaits him"? =A0I assumed the Drakh would be that destiny - not his
> "greatest fear".
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> The reason I suggested the island of Selini is that he did so in an
> attempt to stop the Vorlons from destroying Centauri Prime. =A0As it
> turned out, however, the Vorlons wouldn't have destroyed Centauri
> Prime, anyway, since they would be recalled.
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> Basically, in my mind, his greatest fear is the destruction of
> Centauri Prime. =A0By surrendering to that fear, he would have come out
> ahead. =A0The Drakh, later, said that they got the idea of planting
> nukes all over Centauri Prime from Londo's destruction of the island
> of Selini. =A0If Londo hadn't done that, the Drakh wouldn't have had as
> much leverage over Londo, in theory, and Londo might have been able to
> spur off their attempts to put a keeper on him.
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> > > It seems like it might be referring to G'Kar's eye, but G'Kar's eye
> > > did see. =A0G'Kar, later, says that although he's missing an eye, he
> > > sees clearer without it than he did with it. =A0That could imply that
> > > the eye didn't "see" as he now does, but it seems
to me that G'Kar was=

> > > just speaking in hyperbole, then.
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> > He is referring to G'Kar's eye. In this case it was the eye that could n=
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> > see Cartagia's splendor. JMS makes this clear in a message =A0from that =
time.
> > Search JMSnews.com for that quote.
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> There's still the question, then, of what saving this eye
> accomplishes.

My sense is that in order to save G'kar's eye he would have had to
confront and likely kill Cartagia directly rather than waiting for the
charade to play out on Narn.  He probably would have ascended to the
throne at that point rather than the Regent being appointed.  By
risking his own plan for his enemy's sake it would have shown that he
was interested in G'kar's well being and not simply in using G'kar as
a means to an end.  This likely would have redeemed him in G'kar's
eyes.  Then either G'kar or Londo's newfound conscience would then
have prevented Londo from killing Morden for what was essentially
sport.  This would then allow him to avoid the Drakh invasion of
Centauri Prime.

I disagree with you on Selini, though, I think that was a necessary
act.\


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