On 09/17/18, Roger Bell_West pondered and said...
 
 RB> On 2018-09-17, Ib Joe wrote:
 RB> >I just checked the Time and date on all 3 ststems, and they are all the s
 RB> >time, currently Sept 17, 2018 @ 5:04 PM
 RB> 
 RB> But you're sending this out marked with time zone +1200, rather than the
 RB> +0600 which would match your actual time zone.

Hi Roger et al.

Joe is using a fidonet technology network gateway that is based in New
Zealand that I run. His BBS message packets come in via Fidonet style
connections with the following kludge lines added. One of which you will see
flys the correct TZUTC time code for when he posted things at his end.

Here's the message as I see it on my BBS system at Agency BBS in New Zealand.

[snip]

From: Ib Joe
  To: Ian Whitmore
Subj: Re: Raspberry Pi
Date: 09/17/18 17:05
Base: Raspberry Pi

@TZUTC: -0600
@MSGID: 447.fidonetrberrypi@1:342/200 20056ae8
@REPLY:  6112403b
@PID: Synchronet 3.17a-Linux  Jun 22 2018 GCC
@TID: SBBSecho 3.05-Linux r3.86 Jun 22 2018 GCC 4.9.2
@SEEN-BY: 3/50 15/0 19/36 57/0 116/18 120/331 123/140 135/376 153/7715
@SEEN-BY: 218/700 220/60 226/100 250/1 261/38 100 266/404 512 267/800 275/100
@SEEN-BY: 282/1031 1056 291/1 310/31 317/2 3 320/219 340/400 342/13 393/68
@SEEN-BY: 633/280 712/132 848 770/0 1 3 100 330 340 772/0 1 210 500 801/161
@SEEN-BY: 801/189 2320/100 105 3634/12 5020/1042
  Re: Re: Raspberry Pi
  By: Ian Whitmore to Ib Joe on Mon Sep 17 2018 02:49 pm

 IW> Hey IB Joe,

 IW> Your reply to A. Dumas arrived after his mail(timestamped 17th Sep 12:11)
 IW> but yours was timestamped 16 Sep 20:08 and thus appears before his!

 IW> In my naiveity I thought all time stamps and dates were meant to be UTC
 IW> time.

Interesting....

I just checked the Time and date on all 3 ststems, and they are all the same
time, currently Sept 17, 2018 @ 5:04 PM

:)
IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's Computer & BBS
Since 1991 joesbbs.com
--- SBBSecho 3.05-Linux

[snip]

The gateway software however places a +1200 timezone stamp on the Usenet
gated packet because that's where the system resides here in New Zealand. I
am not aware of any way to allow his original time zone data to pass
unchanged. So that's why you are seeing that.

The gateway has been running for a number of years and the only real issue
we've had is that some BBS systems with another gated access to a Usenet
group like this have also linked to the gateway I run thereby creating a loop
of messages running from Usenet  gateway  BBS  the gateway I run 
Usenet.

That happened recently in this Usenet newsgroup and I took steps to remove
the offending node. This newsgroup is also gated to a mailing list which is
where I became aware of some reports about that issue and acted promptly to
resolve.

So that aside, the issue of TZ problems causing folks grief in the way they
can thread their posts in their favorite news reader is new to me. I accept
it's not ideal for some but I'm sorry that can't be helped due to the nature
of the older gateway software being used. 

As another poster in this thread has already commented there is a work around
and that's to simply thread based on reference headers.

I hope this post helps to clarify what's happening.

Best, Paul

bbs.nz
news.bbs.nz

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