RR> Of course, I don't think they really care. I have come to the
 RR> conclusion that the people ranting here really 
 RR> want Clinton back in so
 RR> that it can force things to a head. They have 
 RR> some sort of wish for an
 RR> all-out confrontation. 
 GP> Then you haven't been reading my msgs.
 
I have and that's what I have distilled from them.
 
In previous messages you've said things about this being the last election, 
etc. that lead me to believe you think we're in for some sort of revolution 
or at least a totalitarian state, presumably with "anti-government 
terrorists" (as they'll be characterized in the press) taking up the fight. 
Of course, they'll be as well focussed as the old pro-gun forces were and 
will be denouncing each other, unable to co-operate, and generally make easy 
pickings while being shocked that the public doesn't support them...
 
 RR> Maybe they've seen Star Wars and Red Dawn a few
 RR> too many times. 
 GP> And maybe they don't watch TV at all, or go to 
 GP> movies.  That's why they
 GP> still have some discernment left.
 
Which makes them less than 1% of the population.
 
- and clueless about where the public stands and what they believe.
 
 GP> Voting for someone who will uphold & defend the 
 GP> Constitution is going to
 GP> backfire?  I think your route has already backfired.
 
Vote for whoever you like. Just don't expect it to save us. Unless they have 
a genuine shot at winning it's an empty gesture. Voting for "Dirty" Harry 
Callihan has as much effect and sends a stronger message but it won't put 
anyone but Clinton in office.
 
 GP> What are you going to do if you vote for Brady Bill-
 GP> Bob Dole, & Klinton
 GP> wins (just like happened when you voted for the 
 GP> anti-gun Bush-wack last
 GP> time)?  Have you thought about what "message you 
 GP> would be sending?"  It
 GP> will tell the International Fascist DemoPublican 
 GP> one-party system that they
 GP> still have you by the balls, like a good sheeple . 
 GP> . . . fleeced again!
 
And your vote would just say "go ahead with your plans, I'll go play in the 
corner." A vote for a guaranteed loser is still a loss. Just grow up and 
admit it. It's too late in this election to reach the masses. Maybe in four 
years we'll have had time but I doubt it. Too many insulting zealots keep 
driving them away before they can be informed.
 
I've managed to convince a few but it's not done by standing on corners 
shouting "Repent ye traitors!" You have to come off as rational and reasoned 
or they walk away reinforced in their old position. 
 
Sure, they may be sinners but you'll drive them away if shout that at them 
first thing out of the box.
 
 GP> Have you ever thought about what Dole would think 
 GP> if he won?  He'd know for
 GP> sure, with _your_ vote, that he has a nationwide 
 GP> referendum to impose more
 GP> of his Brady Bills, AW bans & mag bans . . . . . & 
 GP> he'd be _right_.  That
 GP> will have been exactly what he has been doing, 
 GP> prior to getting elected.
 GP> Is that the msg you want to send?  More Brady Bills 
 GP> & bans?  Apparantly it
 GP> is, so go ahead & send it.  Certainly you should 
 GP> vote for what you believe
 GP> in.  
 
Bad as he might be he doesn't have the hard-on that the Dems have for gun 
control. With a decent amount of pro-2nd Repubs, Libertarians, etc. in the 
congressional seats we could at least have a couple of years to educate, 
recruit, etc.
 
Dole will know he's on thin ice, election/re-election-wise. With a veto-proof 
congress he'll have to go along. He blows whichever way he thinks the wind is 
headed. He doesn't try to generate opinion/policy the way Clinton & Co. 
constantly do. Yeah, he's only the lesser of two evils but too many pro-2nd 
people have been running in different directions all year and couldn't get 
behind one candidate in the early days of this election. 
 
Now we're in the campaign with no viable choice to win. We can opt out (your 
way), try to minimize damage, or just stay home.
 
Those are the only real-life options, like it or not.
 
And I no longer have time to play with the irrational.
 
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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