-=> Quoting Ray Rooney to John Perz <=-
 JP> I've basicly come to the conclusion that Guy, and maybe one or two
 JP> others here, are card-carrying Libertarian Party activists who are out
 JP> to "Get Votes For Harry" no matter what.
 
 JP> If my suspicions are true, the incredibly inept and 
 JP> hostile way they are
 JP> going about it also explains why the Libertarian 
 RR> Sadly, it's an all too common situation. I see it all over these days.
Perhaps pro-gun people are finally getting angry at anti-gun voting gun
owners.
 RR> People like this are driving people _away_ because they come off as
 RR> rabid kooks. 
Away?  Away from what?!  Away from the anti-gunners.
 RR> If they held off on the name-calling and reasoned quietly
 RR> they might get somewhere but instead they yammer off like the
 RR> religeous fanatic screaming at everyone that they're going to burn in
 RR> hell unless they get down on their knees and worship _his_ way right
 RR> then and there. 
This is an inaccurate assessment of my position.  My defining someone's
political position as anti-gun, because they in fact cast anti-gun votes,
is _not_ "name calling."  That continuing accusation comes from big babies
who absolutely refuse to face up to the obvious fact that they are voting
for anti-gunners, therefore adopting the anti-gun political position.
 RR> These kind of people have/are doing the Libertarians more damage than
 RR> their enemies ever could.  
I'm _not_ a Libertarian . . . . damnit.  Have you ever heard me say I was
voting for Browne?  No, you haven't, have you?  I'll probably be voting for
Collins.  So much for your "wild Libertarian" fallacy.
 RR> In simple terms: you can't convert people by calling them insulting
 RR> names, acting in an enraged manner, 
Convert them to what?  You mean convert gun owners to being pro-gun?  Have
you ever torpedoed an anti-gunner when you saw them post in a gun echo?
 RR> . . . . and expect them to cast off a lifetime of mis-education 
_Me_ expect a sheeple to uphold & defend the Constitution?  No, not me.
 RR> . . . and follow you. 
Follow me to where?!  You are welcome to follow me to the polls & vote for
one of the pro-gun candidates.
 RR> The Republicans are
 RR> left-of-center and look at how they're characterized as right-wing,
 RR> genocidal, wacko fascists.   They've been getting beat over the head
 RR> because they wanted to slow the growth of social programs and had the
 RR> audacity to suggest the repeal of the AW ban. 
"Suggesting" isn't enough.  Dole/Gingrich _blocked_ a repeal of the AW ban. 
That's because they want to keep it.  That's what Dole said.
Republicans aren't "left of center," they are hard-left-wing Fascists.  No,
there is no such thing as a right-wing Fascist . . . .
 RR> Imagine the reception
 RR> someone who wants to repeal Social Security, all gun laws, subsidies,
 RR> etc. is going to get. _Then_ tell us all how Browne is going to be the
 RR> next president. 
Then I suppose you want to keep SS, gun laws, subsidies, etc.
 RR> Of course, I don't think they really care. I have come to the
 RR> conclusion that the people ranting here really want Clinton back in so
 RR> that it can force things to a head. They have some sort of wish for an
 RR> all-out confrontation. 
Then you haven't been reading my msgs.
 RR> Maybe they've seen Star Wars and Red Dawn a few
 RR> too many times. 
And maybe they don't watch TV at all, or go to movies.  That's why they
still have some discernment left.
 RR> It's very likely to backfire on us all. 
Voting for someone who will uphold & defend the Constitution is going to
backfire?  I think your route has already backfired.
What are you going to do if you vote for Brady Bill-Bob Dole, & Klinton
wins (just like happened when you voted for the anti-gun Bush-wack last
time)?  Have you thought about what "message you would be sending?"  It
will tell the International Fascist DemoPublican one-party system that they
still have you by the balls, like a good sheeple . . . . fleeced again!
Have you ever thought about what Dole would think if he won?  He'd know for
sure, with _your_ vote, that he has a nationwide referendum to impose more
of his Brady Bills, AW bans & mag bans . . . . . & he'd be _right_.  That
will have been exactly what he has been doing, prior to getting elected.
Is that the msg you want to send?  More Brady Bills & bans?  Apparantly it
is, so go ahead & send it.  Certainly you should vote for what you believe
in.  
... We made an ARRANGEMENT.  We LET that bill (Brady) PASS. - Sen Bob Dole
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