From: "John Fitzsimons" 
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal.channeling
Organization: Melbourne PC User Group Inc, Australia
Original Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 05:29:48 GMT
On Sun, 13 Oct 96 16:20:46 -0500, ehkuhall7@delphi.com wrote:
>John Fitzsimons  writes:
>>Yep. Possession by negative entities. If in partial/full trance don't
>>do this alone. Otherwise make sure that you don't have any guns. 
>>axes etc. around. IF you got the wrong spirit in you then you might
>>return to your body to find the police putting handcuffs on your 
>>arms.
 
>John.....
Hi Eileen
>	I know you make your living dislodging "negative entities"
>who are posessing living people and haunting their homes etc... but
I don't "make a living" in this. This is just one of the things I do
to "make a living".
>I still don't understand why anybody would want to take over my body
>or enter my life? 
To be able to easily affect people and events in the physical world.
Spirit people *can* affect the physical world BUT it usually takes a
considerable amount of effort on their behalf AND usually requires
situations in the physical world to be appropriate.
>Quite frankly, I'm just not that interesting. 
Most murderers, rapists, thugs etc. who are discarnate couldn't care
less how "interesting" or "uninteresting" you are. All they would want
to know is "would having control over your physical body do them any
good ?"
>I need to sleep. My clothes get dirty and my laundry has to be done. I also
>have to pay bills. In other words life in this body is probably not
>much fun except for me.
If a discordant non-physical person were to possess your physical body
they wouldn't do this to do your laundry etc.  If they did then maybe
people would want to be possessed !    
>	So why would any wandering spirit want this body? 
Many reasons. A murderer may wish to exact "revenge" on people he/she
wished to settle *old scores* with. By using your body they can do
this. You would be the one ending up in gaol afterwards, not them.
They would just leave your body after they were finished with it.
An alcoholic may wish to use your body so that they can continue to
drink. Drinking non-physically isn't as "real" to an earthbound person
as doing so in someone's physical body.
>Spirits can thought form any weapons they need (except maybe fire 
>arms and they can manufacture those.) 
Correct.
>and they have fists, feet, teeth, you get the idea. They are more 
>than capable of beating up on eachother, so if there is a spirit 
>out their bent on violence he or she can certainly find it with his 
>or her own kind. 
Correct. But if they want to be violent towards specific people in the
physical world and/or physical people in general, then it is much
easier if one has a physical body of their own to use.
>We're not much fun to attack by
>the way because we are unable to react swiftly enough because we
>do not pick up surface thoughts which means we can not sense where the
>next blow is coming from and are thus easy to strike, too easy.
I only partly agree that physical people may be "sitting targets" to
negative discarnates. How "vulnerable" we are depends on how strong
the attacker/s is/are and how good our psychic defences are.
If one is in good health, sober, and a positive thinker then it is
difficult for discarnates to affect them. Just like it is where a
person has learnt about "psychic protection" and applies it.
 
>	Now presumably there is someone out there who might like to
>grab my purse head down to Sangertown Square and charge my credit
>cards to the limit, spend all the money in my savings account etc...
>but with thought forms the temptation to theft is likewise slim.
Spending up on your credit cards could be done, however I suspect 
it wouldn't be of a great interest to many discarnates. The sort of
person who would want to take over your physical body is usually
interested in much more "intertaining" activities. Getting you to step
out of a sixth floor window (after telling you that you can fly) would
be much more fun. As would getting you to shoot someone etc. etc.
 
>	As for more intimate activities, if spirits have spirit bodies,
>these come with all the accouterments and abilities, and again there
>if they can find suitible partners... The point is that no spirit needs
>my body for a social life either.
If you had a male body then some discarnates would find it quite
usefull to use to rape people. It is usually better doing it
physically for some discarnates than non-physically. A particular
female may be safe from psychic rape but not physical rape.
 
>	I know it is tough to not believe yourself a part of the mix
>or a necessary ingredient, but we are just not that interesting and this
>world is not so great.
How "interesting" someone is is almost irrelevant. A spirit possesses
a physical person's body for what THEY can do in it NOT what the
previous owner wanted to do in it !         :-)
Regards, John.
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