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from: Bertie the Bunyip
date: 2008-01-19 16:33:30
subject: Re: Spins

"danmc61{at}gmail.com"  wrote in
news:b13dbc51-da26-4e0b-8e2b-d15de538d934{at}j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com: 

> On Jan 19, 10:21 am, Bertie the Bunyip  wrote:
>> "Blueskies"  wrote
>> innews:2lokj.790$so6.116{at}newssvr19.news.prodigy.net: 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Bertie the Bunyip"  wrote in message
>> >news:Xns9A2A1BE5D4F44pissupropeeh{at}207.14.116.130...
>>
>> >>> The Ercoupe was an interesting airplane. It had a
placard on the
>> >>> panel that said "This airplane is incapable of
spinning" The
>> >>> rudder (what there was of it) was directly linked to
the yoke and
>> >>> any tendency to spin was automatically countered. No rudder
>> >>> pedals..just a brake pedal and a yoke. If I remember right, I
>> >>> think the elevator was limited to 13 degrees as well which made
>> >>> it real hard to even stall. It would mush like hell but stay on
>> >>> the front side of it's max Cl line. Landing that thing was
>> >>> something else. A Lot of people don't know this but
Tex Johnston
>> >>> out at Boeing practiced crosswind landings in an
Ercoupe just to
>> >>> get the feel of landing in a crab since he couldn't drop a wing
>> >>> in the prototype -80 because of the engine pods. It was a great
>> >>> little airplane to fly and a lot of fun. The one fault we found
>> >>> with it was a high sink rate that could develop on final if you
>> >>> let it get too slow. But if you kept the speed up a
bit it was a
>> >>> joy to fly. Never did get one to spin!! :-) 
>>
>> >> Yeah, I checked a guy ( and myself) out in one that he had
>> >> restored. The manual actually told you to hold th estick full aft
>> >> to increse your sink rate if you were high on finals!
>>
>> >> !!!!!
>>
>> >> Bertie
>>
>> > That, and you can hang your hand out the side slide down window
>> > which acts like a spoiler. A guy on the field here has I think 4
>> > 'Coupes along with his Twister and Meyers 200. Sometimes I think he
>> > prefers the 'Coupes over them all. He mumbles under his breath damn
>> > cessners and pippers...
>>
>> He has a Meyers 200 and an Ercoupe?
>>
>> Now that's  a werid combination!
>>
>> The ercoupe was an effecient airplane even by today's standards.
>> Remeber it came out in 1938 and it's an astonishing bit of airplane.
>> Stil too girly for me, though!
>>
>> Bertie
>>
>>
> 
> Sad story follows...
> 
> A friend has a thing for Ercoupes. Been looking for one for years
> within his price range -- around $15k.
> 
> Sees an ad in trade-a-plane, calls., the widow states, "I have to get
> 17 -- my husband said it was worth 17."
> 
> "Well, for the equipment you have in it, etc..all I can offer is 15."
> 
> "Sorry."
> 
> Months later.. he calls back, "You still have that airplane?"
> 
> "Yep, and not selling it for less than 17."
> 
> "OK."
> 
> A few months later 'You still have that airplane?"
> 
> "Nope..sold it to a fellow -- he paid 17."
> 
> "Well, that's pretty good. Seventeen thousand is a good price for an
> ercoupe."
> 
> Silence.
> 
> "Ma'am?"
> 
> "Seventeen thousand, you said?"
> 
> "Yes, ma'am."
> 
> "I sold it for seventeen hundred -- and included all the boxes of
> parts."
> 
> More conversation ensues --seems the deceased was restoring it, hoping
> to place at Oshkosh -- thus the minimal equipment listed. Included
> lots of brandy-new spares, parts, etc.
> 
> For $1,700.
> 
> Yikes.
> 
> Moral -- clarify your terms!
> 

Holy crap! You can't get a second hand Datsun for that. 

Bertie
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