RW> I'm afraid I can't do that. I don't support movie actors who tell us
 RW> that they support the left because they're movie stars. I don't buy
 RW> that

 I wasn't asking you to do anything of the sort Roy. And I don't
'support' someone just because he's famous (especially for something
that has nothing to do with what he's famous for.)

An outstanding example of my lack of support is this. You remember
Robert Young? He played the very popular Dr. Marcus Welby, MD.
Everybody's dream doctor who makes house calls! and actually listens!
and has TIME for you! OOOH. No wonder everybody liked him so much.

So. When this actor (who had also played the ever wise dad in
"Father Knows Best" (and in real life had a problem with the Bottle)-
started Endorsing Instant (Faux) coffee in the name of Sanka  and
all the rabid fans ran out to buy it because "the Doctor said so". :)
and after I tasted this stuff at my RY fan- Grandmother's house-
ANY Remaining Awe of Actors and any credibility they have: went right
out the window. This was over 25 years ago.

Funny how HOSPITALS serve that stuff. SO Roy? Trust me on this. I
don't base my views on "fame" of the speaker.

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 RW> newspaper because of what THAT newspaper has printed in the past. I

I know what you are talking a bout and I agree. It was bad.
I don't trust everything it says either, but then I read a comment from
a friend on this topic and posted it. I know.. you feel betrayed? I do!

The fact is all they really care about is selling papers. Period. It's
up to us to find out the truth about anything we read these days.

You can't rely on people who's only TRUE interest is their wallet,
trouble is it's all too easy to over look that tell tale point if we
find ourselves agreeing with what they say. Hook nail sinker.

............

 RW> don't watch news programs where they constantly belittle the President
 RW> for what they perceive as wrong. I don't care for their bigotry
 RW> either.

 Belittling anybody is cheap. They do it to make money because
apparently that's what most people seem to want. Take heart Roy. I
think people of ever bent except the extremists, are getting sick of
it. Sooner or later the tide will change.

The other day in our Orlando Sentinel on the Front Page in a huge
picture you see a young man reacting to the news of his wife's murder.
She had been out jogging. You could see the anguish in this man's face.
You felt for him and his family. Do the paper's care about his privacy?
Or his pain for that matter? No. They just want the money because they
know when most people see that pic they'll want to read the grueling
blow by blow repeated five times, details. They're that desperate!
The mainstream papers are getting right down there with the gutter press.


Okay. You might say, Cindy- YOU read it. Well Okay I did, a little bit
but it was only because it ws right in my face. WE didn't buy the
paper for that article but for the Xword puzzle and any REAL news we
could glean plus the Real Estate Section which is even WORSE then the
front page when it comes to grief.

Anyway YOU DO have to read a few of those awful stories to know what
you're talking about when talking about them.

The Star Telegram in Fort Worth does the same thing. They also make a
huge big deal over the weather too. Ever rainfall ever everything ...

I find if you really want news SOMETIMES it really is a good idea
to look at what OTHER countries have to say about our current affairs.
Frankly I don't want to know and don't need to know about personal
tragedies. Don't we have enough of our own? And you can step outside
for the weather or look online if you are traveling and
need destination weather info.

...

 CH> It's actually beneficial  if not practice- to read 'from both
 CH> sides'.

 RW> I've heard enough of the 'other side' to last a lifetime.

 Yeah. I know what you mean Roy. But remember not everybody
you classify in 'that side' thinks that way about everything anymore
than people on your side do. I think to keep a balanced view is to
prevent ourselves from sliding into the far side on either side.
That's the red zone.

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 CH> Now the only 'sides' other than the two you and I are
 CH> talking about (and they do shift back and forth depending on the
 CH> issue at hand with all of us)- are the extremes at both ends. Now
 CH> those are the ones to worry about.

 RW> There are extremes in the middle too. Or or at least they want you to
 RW> believe they're in the middle.

 Yep! That bunch is the bunch that's sliding ...

 It is one thing to hold a belief, but to force it on others is to be
 falling off the balance beam and they want to take everybody with 'em.
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 CH> I think of Art as being junk art or pure art. Junk Art It think
 CH> predominates now and this is a sad thing.

 RW> I never did pay much attention to it, since it all looks like junk to

 I never did either but when we lived in Fort Worth going to museums
was a nice change from going to malls during inclement weather (either
to windy/cold or too broiling 100 degrees hot to be outside for very long.)

Once I actually saw "junk" it took me awhile to simmer down , get
back into balance. Each to their own I said. It saves your sanity to
ignore it. It won't go away but for you and me it does.
.....................

 RW> me. I have paintings hanging on the wall, but they're nothing
 RW> significant. I have photos on the wall, but they mean little to me.
 RW> What they do is break up the moneteny of the otherwise blank wall.

 Nod. I find works that mean something to me. They don't have to cost
a lot at all. I like works that me smile. My husband doesn't 'see'
much in art either but he DID surprise me with a small black white
Picasso (matte) postcard print of a woman reading a book on the couch..
lol. (ME). He bought it at the gift shop at the modern art place, and we
keep it on the Fridge.

 I once saw a $10.OO 8X10 (cheap) watercolor print of a hobo... There
was something in his woe be me expression that bespoke
sweet/'clownish'/endearing and I cracked up laughing.  I don't know why
that picture makes me laugh! But I bought it, for the bathroom.
.....................

 RW> He's also a self taught computer expert and works as an IT. That pays
 RW> a whole lot more than painting pictures and is the work I told him to
 RW> put his life into.

 His art education does help with the computer expertise Roy. SO  it
does pay off in a better way. A lot of times our kids want a certain
path that won't make them a decent living. They don't have to give it
up. They can find a good job that uses 'that path'. That's what your
son did. Bravo to him. And who knows Roy. As he gets older he might
find a another profitable outlet for those artistic skills. Having
artistic talent opens a lot of doors. Finding the right door is what
you helped him do. He'll find others too in ways he never thought
possible. Even if it's only for say a hobby. Or to help out with a
local group's fund raising. That sort of thing.

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 RW> My MIL (could) and wife can paint by numbers. OTH, my wife's BIL has
 RW> an art studio in California and teaches poor little rich kids how to
 RW> paint pictures. Not too bad himself.

 I'm not talking about painting by numbers. Anybody can do that.
I'm talking about painting from memory and knowing which colors to dab
to which and how to create a likeness ... of what we see. Now THAT is talent.

BUT it does not pay well. It never does, not until after the talented
artist is long dead and his works sell for thousands of dollars...
sigh. That is if he or she WAS truly talented (as perceived by the
viewers of course..aside: with some tastes today that could be
anything just as long as the artist was 'well known' like Robert Young)
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 CH> Now take "Modern Art" ... sigh. Just about  ANYBODY can do that.

 RW> Even Elephants and Chimpanzees.

 C: yup!  You can go online Roy. View galleries of ANY "Modern Art"...
and just TRY to see what people who think it's fabulous see. I tried
and just couldn't do it. But see? At least I tried.

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 CH> And this isn't a Conservative or Liberal  view. To me it's simply the
 CH> truth.

 RW> That would depend Some folks like conservative art and some folks
 RW> like liberal arts. You don't like modern art because it's too liberal
 RW> for you.

 I don't know Roy. Maybe you are right. I'll think about this some
more. I just don't see it with a label. I just see what I see and if
something looks like anybody could do it, well that's what it is.

It's a fact not just anybody can recreate likenesses, with all the
light/shadow and amazing life-ness some artists can do. They don't do
it with computers either.

BTW One "object de art" in the "Modern" art place was
this: And I KID
YOU NOT!!!! : a sheet of lined notebook paper, framed very nicely ...
(Soft maroon colored heavy paper matte frame, the frame was nice.
Maybe that was the art? heh!)
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 RW> Did I mention that I don't like cake either? :o)

 Really? I don't either and I feel sadly in minority. (Unless of
course it happens to be (real)chocolate/(real)raspberry torte with
whipped cream icing ; real cream not the fake stuff.)

Cindy


... Junk - stuff we throw away.  Stuff - junk we keep.

--- PPoint 3.01