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| subject: | Re: ATTN JMS: What did Morden see? |
Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Matt Ion said: > > I've always assumed it was because Londo was "touched by the shadows." > Plausible, but then that doesn't explain Morden being able to see Kosh. My guess is that Morden saw Kosh in his true form, the shapeless bundle of energy we saw later, when Sheridan evicted Kosh2. > > Besides, didn't the dying emperor see Kosh? > This is true... although unlike the others who saw Kosh when he rescued > Sheridan, and thought they were seeing an "angel", Turhan knew what a > Vorlon was, and knew that he was seeing a Vorlon, rather than expecting > to see some sort of religious apparition. We never saw Turhan seeing Kosh in his true form, only "within his shell", as Turhan previously put it. > This lends weight to the supposition that Londo's "lack of faith of any > sort" was what led to him not seeing anything - the Centauri "faiths" > appear to be largely pagan-like, based around any number of minor gods, > mostly ascended from their own ranks. They don't, that I recall seeing, > believe in any sort of single "higher power", and certainly don't appear > to have any form of seraphim figure in their mythology. IIRC from dialog in the show at various points, there are about 50 gods in the Centauri pantheon, including former emperors, plus a Great Maker above them all (at one point Garibaldi makes a point that except for the Centauri, all of the Great Maker religions are monotheistic). > I don't know so much that Kosh would have needed to "project" an image > of appearing to each race in the form of that race, so much as that's > how the conditioning had taught them to see a Vorlon - creating God in > their own image, as it were. Didn't Kosh subsequently say that being seen by so many at once tired him out? That would certainly imply that he was in fact projecting an image to those in line of sight, not merely relying on some kind of conditioning. Then, a few seasons later, when we see Kosh and Kosh2 fighting, we see them as their formless bundles of energy not angelic beings, which implies that they were NOT projecting an image nor that those with a line of sight has a preconditioned thing to see them as angelic beings. -- Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny." - James Madison, The Federalist Papers --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32* Origin: Time Warp of the Future BBS - Home of League 10 (1:14/400) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 14/300 34/999 106/1 120/228 123/500 134/10 140/1 222/2 226/0 SEEN-BY: 249/303 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1410 1417 1418 266/1413 280/1027 SEEN-BY: 320/119 393/11 396/45 633/104 260 267 690/682 734 712/848 800/432 SEEN-BY: 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 105 109 200 2905/0 @PATH: 14/400 5 140/1 261/38 633/260 267 |
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