==> A hush fell over the room when Mhs:thom R.@1:125/9 said to Christian 
Hedemark <== 
 CH> TM>You mentioned going to a few third step meetings to clarify what the 
 CH> TM>meaning of higher power is? Is this right? My question is as a new pe
 CH> TM>do I not tackle one step at a time, begining with the first? Or do I 
 CH> TM>around? This is of great interest to me since I am not religious in a
 CH> TM>of the word, and higher power doesn't mean a god to me but I am confu
 CH> TM>this, especialy reading the posts that refer to God. There.... that i
 CH> TM>confusing enough, don't you think?  Tutu
 
 CH> Yes - it is confusing enough.
 
 CH> The steps are "suggested".
 
 CH> The order is also "suggested".
 TR> Where is the order suggested?
In that the steps themselves are suggested, one could interpret that
the order is also suggested.  My experience on this bears it out.
I was able to admit that my life was unmangable way before I was
willing to admit that I was powerless over alcohol.  I didn't drink
because they *said* it would get better if I didn't (although I didn't
really believe them).  I did a step 3 based on the tried and true 
method of "act as if" well before the I truly came to believe as
stated in step 2.  I made numerous financial amends prior to doing
a 4th step.  I didn't need an inventory to know that I owed people 
money.  In fact, had I waited until reaching the 9th step, I would
have done additional damage that doing this step "out of order"
saved me from inflicting.
 TR> Have you ever taken them? If you haven't then would you mind trying to
 TR> limit your "advice" to your experience?
Thom, the attitude that you're displaying in your recent posts would make
any of us who don't know you well wonder if *you'd* taken them. ;-)
Hugs,
Harriet
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