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echo: holysmoke
to: Chinacat
from: Ross Cassell
date: 2009-03-22 10:38:30
subject: CREATIONISM

Chinacat -> Ross Cassell wrote:

 ->> Are you accusing me of being a believer?

 ->> If you are, then you possess a PhD in Wrong.

 C> I've looked at your blogs. Believer. Period. And liar when you try to
 C> deny it.


Blogs... Try Blog and I dont preach religion on it, nor do I belong to a religion...

I talk about everyday things, I believe my last blog entry was about a
fairly decent movie I watched starring John Cusack.

I have railed against Michael Vick, GPS units and those whom seem so
attached to their telephones that they think the telephone is a GOD that
needs worshiping.

Now how you can extrapolate that into having a religious belief is weird.

 ->> There was a time when I possessed the anti-religion fervor exhibited
 C> by your
 ->> kind, I learned to chill out. I further learned that for me to have a
 C> right to
 ->> my beliefs, I must acknowledge the rights of others, too bad your kind
 C> wont see
 ->> that.

 C> You have the right to your beliefs but you don't have the right to force
 C> them on everybody else.

Exactly how am I actively forcing my beliefs onto others?

Show your evidence?

 ->> Since when are people of belief *REQUIRED* to answer *YOUR* questions
 C> about
 ->> their beliefs, show me the law that requires such?

 C> The law that says you don't have the right to force those beliefs on me.

The law says no such thing.. The law guarantees *EVERYONE* free and equal
rights, with the stipulation that your rights end where another persons
rights begin.

 C> And if you want me to follow your ways, then you have the obligation to
 C> answer my questions so that I can satisfy myself that this is the right
 C> path for me. If you can't or won't answer them then the only conclusion I
 C> can come to is that you must be deluded.

I dont want you to believe as others might, I would prefer you respect the
fact that the same rights you enjoy be extended to everyone else, even if
they are not like minded.

 ->> It is not nor will it ever be about whether or not they answer
 C> questions, for
 ->> they are not required to submit themselves for interrogation by your
 C> kind.

 C> Why not? Especially if they insist that I have to follow their path?

Then it is time to become an Adult and just say no.

Can you become an Adult sir?

 ->> What threatens *YOUR KIND* is that people do, a vast majority of the
 C> worlds
 ->> populace, choose to have a belief system that differs from your own,
 C> it burn
 ->> you up and that my dear friend is pure megalomania, or evil at its
 C> purest. I
 ->> use the term evil because it is the opposite of good, and to which,
 C> nothing
 ->> good comes from your advocation's.

 C> No, it doesn't burn me up or bother me in the least...until you have that
 C> belief system that says the laws of the land have to fall in line with
 C> their beliefs. This country was founded to be religiously neutral so that
 C> everybody could make their own choices. Religiously neutral.

Yes but in context, you are no better than those you protest about, if
getting in your face is bad, getting into theirs is bad to.

You cant hyper-insulate yourself from people whom are not like minded and
do not yet know of your beliefs..

 C> One more question, Ross. When was the last time an atheist came to your
 C> door to share the 'good news' and refused to leave when you said 'no
 C> thanks'? Or left a flyer offering free food if you needed it but only if
 C> you sat through a lecture first? Or put up a billboard stating
"An Educated
 C> Person Knows the Origin of Species". Ok, so that's 3 questions but you
 C> can't answer ANY of them in the affirmative, can you?

I have never had a person of faith refuse to acknowledge my polite answers
of "Thanks, Sorry, not interested". The Jehovahs Witnesses seem
to be the main active recruiters around here in Baptistville.

All religions ask its members to spread the word, I think your biggest fear
is not being able to become an Adult and just say no. I have learned to do
so, why cant you?

-- 
Ross
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