-> On 30 Mar 09  15:46:23, Ross Cassell got back to God Dan 
-> Re: Just for the fun of i

 RC> You should be thankful that we successfully revived this echo and that
 RC> you do have someone to debate, if it werent for a mere few people whom

Debate what?  Ed and crew avoid all questions that aren't "of the body".  
They ignore facts that are contradictory to what they state.  

I've told you before, this is not a debate Echo.  It never was nor can it 
ever be.  It is a place where fundy beliefs are BBQ'd right before their 
eyes over the fires of facts.  


 GD> "Pales in comparison"?  That's a laugh.  Hell, you didn't
even bother
 GD> to note the use of "Otto", a practice that you once in a while get
 GD> around to saying is inappropriate in this Echo.  After all, this is
 GD> not MATZDOBRE.

 RC> There comes a point when Mr Sauer does not get nor deserves special
 RC> protections for the stuff he unleashes himself, unto himself. For me
 RC> to forbid people from calling him Otto, his birth name, I would have
 RC> to forbid you from using "God Dan" and Judith from using
"Chinacat",
 RC> is this what you want? 

That's the biggest red herring I've seen yet.  

I didn't give myself the handle of "God Dan".  That was bestowed upon me 
by a fundy. Others in the Echo picked up on it and began addressing mail to 
me as "God Dan".  It was far easier to use one name in the Echo for 
quoting purposes.  Steve agreed and I started using God Dan full time.  
Further, I had absolutely no objections to the handle.  It's a great 
conversation piece.  

As to Chinacat, you replied to her far more than once using her alias 
without question. Blame yourself.

Now, for Ross Sauer:  He does not, as you perfectly well know, use 'Otto' 
as his name.  You yourself have ruled against those using it in the past. 
Now, you let those very same people get away with it once again. 

 RC> I will institute a real names rule for this echo, I actually prefer to
 RC> have that rule, as I do for other echoes I moderate. But I kept some

So what?  I've been God Dan in this Echo longer than I have used my 
real name in this Echo.  I will continue to use the handle that the 
Echo knows me by.  

 RC> vestiges of the old HOLYSMOKE around. With a real names rule, I can
 RC> insist that someone be referred to by that which shows in the FROM
 RC> field, hence the rationale to protect Sauer by having what I called
 RC> the "Otto Rule". However the price for all that will affect you and
 RC> Judith, is this what you want? 

See above, as your ultimatum falls under its own weight of hypocrisy.  
It's not a "Protection of Sauer."  It's the proper thing to do.  That you 
call it the "Otto Rule" shows your contempt rather than true concern over 
abuse of an Echo member's personal name.  


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