On 30/07/18 12:40, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:31:49 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher  wrote:
>
>> On 30/07/18 09:15, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 07:36:33 +0100
>>> The Natural Philosopher  wrote:
>>>
>>>> That mecahnism's functionality needs replicating with a DC grid. Maybe
>>>> big capacitors on the lines would provide some inherent storage.
>>>
>>>  Batteries seem effective in California,
>>
>> ROFLMAO!
>
>  OK perhaps I should have mentioned Australia - the point is
> batteries not California.
>

DROFLMAO!

Even worse there.

>>> although I'm not so sure
>>> that huge batteries maintaining the grid is a better solution than
>>> putting them in houses and factories and sticking PV panels on roofs
>>> thus making the integrity of the grid far less important.
>>>
>> I am not talking about maintaining the grid. I am talking about adding
>> some few seconds of 'inertia ' to it.
>
>  Batteries can do both at utility scale or at domestic scale make
> the reliability of the grid far less important.

Utter total BOLLOCKS.


>
>> The cost of a domestic solar panel and enough battery storage for winter
>> well exceeds the cost of a nuclear power station and a national grid.
>
>  Why on earth would you want enough power storage for winter ? That
> would take four or five megawatt hours of storage.

Exactly. Because dear boy the sun dont shine in winter much, if at all.




>
>  A few hours storage (say ten to twenty kilowatt hours) and a few
> kilowatts peak of panel (just enough that the total collected annually is
> close to the total used annually) is enough to make a huge difference,
> especially if excess power can be sold (or even given free) to the grid when
> the batteries are full.

More bollocks


>
>  Even without solar panels a few hours of on-site power storage is
> more than enough to cope with brownouts and the vast majority of outages.
> It's just that once you have the storage feeding it with locally generated
> solar or wind power makes obvious sense.
>
>  Had such a setup been feasible in 1973 it would have made the
> regular three hour power cuts completely unnoticeable and reduced the
> impact of the oil crisis to being a minor nuisance.
>


Complete shite.



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