Hi Keith!
03 Jan 97, letter Keith Peer to Dmitry Mostovoy:
KP> Respose time is relative. I know for a fact Eugene (AVP) and I am
KP> sure Igor (DrWeb) as well can provide same day or within 24 hours
KP> service there in Russia.
There is no problem to analize virus and to build new anti-virus
database. The problem is to organize a good support to obtain new viruses at
a short time. Here in Russia and in the ex-USSR DrWeb has the best support.
So, it is more reliable here in Russia.
KP> significant but not important. Many products today are
KP> multi-national in that the developers have international officies or
KP> international distributors that feed the virus database world wide.
International distributers can't solve the problem of local viruses. If
virus is written in your region, in some school or college the main problem
is to obtain infected example in a short time. Of course, after a month or
later this virus will be distributed between all scanners developers but the
most important is to be first in the region where it was written.
KP> Using products that are regional today can needlessly expose the user
KP> to the possibility of obtaining virus infection. Sadly, the internet
KP> has increased the availablilty of a vast more number of viruses than
KP> ever before. Regional outbreaks still do happen but the frequency of
KP> these regional attacks has increased. We see many viruses that are
KP> not on any "In the wild" lists in these "regional" outbreaks.
You repeated my words :-).
KP> This is why products like AVP, F-Prot, Dr Solomon's have vast
KP> databases. You cannot predict the exact virus that will infect a
KP> users computer. It may be harmless, or it may not be.
The big database is one of the popular self-deceptions. The choice of the
scanner depends on its support! Not on the extensive nomber of dead bodies
:-) of viruses! The scanner developer should spend a money to organize a
system of receiving of new viruses. Here in Russia such system was developed
by DialogueScience, Inc. and it really works. So, here in Russia and ex-USSR
DrWeb, supported by DialogueScience is more reliable. In other regions, where
the same structures were built by other companies, another scanners are more
reliable.
DM>> The second defence line is integrity checkers. They should be used
DM>> at the every computer to be sure that there is no viruses in the
DM>> system.
KP> Integrity checkers are a third level of defense but should be used
KP> with a quality antivirus scanner and resident protection on every
KP> computer. The problem with Integrity checkers is that they cannot
KP> tell a user that a program is infected with one of the 10,000 or so
KP> known different viruses or not. They only detect a change wether that
KP> change is a virus or not the integrity checker cannot determine.
Of course, it is very interesting to know the name given by scanner
developer to the particular virus :-). But if the program can detect
anonimous changes and restore informatin, (i.e. remove virus) without naming
it, it solves a problem, is not it? Integrity checkers can do it! Even for
unknown viruses!
KP> We have seen a few large installations of integrity checks here in
KP> the US and all were removed and replace with antivirus scanners and
KP> TSR's. Why? In all cases over 70% of the time the end user ignored
KP> the warning because without expert knowledge the end user could not
KP> determine if the warning was a virus infection or not. The integrity
KP> checker only gave a warning not a specific message.
I do not know any good integrity checker, developed in the US. Here in
Russia our ADinf is VERY popular anti-virus tool. And it is very popular in a
big corporations. It can prevent spreading new viruses between computers of
big companies, localize infection at the first infected computer and give an
example of new virus to scanner developers or immidiately remove virus by
curing cmpanion of integrity checker. It has special modes for the end users
who do not know anything about computers. It can, for example, if it finds
some suspicious virus-like changes, stop loading of computer and ask an end
user to call system administrator for help.
KP> Integrity antivirus products *can be* a powerful tool but require
KP> expert knowledge to be used effectively.
It is a second popular self-deception. Our experiance of sales and
support shows that a good integrity checker can be used by tens of thousends
end users.
KP> They also, require the end
KP> user to keep his programs fairly static in that he cannot constantly
KP> add or change software. If the end user did his integrity databases
KP> would be constantly changing thus weakening the generic detection of
KP> the Integrity checker. Keeping a integrity database current can be a
KP> excessive task for a end user.
Why do you say it?! You have seen ADinf. It keeps integrity databases
up-today automatically!
DM>> The 3-rd class is resident monitors. They were not very popular
DM>> under DOS and Windows 3.xx enviroment. But under Win 95, written as
KP> Active protection is the most powerful line of defense and is the
KP> secondary line of defense for PC's. The reasoning is simple. Given
KP> the fact the resident protection can prevent infections and acts in
KP> almost real time with the end user, viruses are caught prior
KP> infecting a computer.
It would be the best anti-virus progrums, BUT!!! Unfortunately, it can't
provide neded reliability. Resident monitors with virus data bases have the
same restrictions as scanners and behaveur monitors are too importunate and
with no problems can be deceived by viruses.
And from the other point of view. There is no need to check the system
permanently. One needs to check incoming files by scanners and to verify the
system by integrity checkers one time per day or after the work with a new
software. For example, if one use only one program at the computer and do not
exchange files, one do not need to check the program at every execution!
Viruses can not born themselfs in a clean system :-). And resident monitors
use resources of computer and decreese its peformence for other tasks
permanently. Resident monitors are to be used from time to time, for example
when one downloaded a new software from a BBS or Internet, checked it with
scanners and wants to execute it at a first time. And after the first start
the system should be checked by integrity checker.
I have said and repeat once more. There is no one program or class of
programs which can be anti-virus panaceya. Only a combined use of two or more
scanners, integrity checker and may be resident monitor may provide some
level of reliability.
With best regards,
Dmitry Mostovoy
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* Origin: DialogueScience, Moscow; E-mail: dmost@dials.ru (2:5020/69.4)
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