Dan_Thomas_nospam{at}yahoo.com wrote in
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> On Jan 19, 2:34 pm, Bertie the Bunyip  wrote:
>> >>They have rudders, they're co-ordinated with the aileron. The later
>> >>ones had rudder pedals and many were converted to have them.
>>
>> > My Beech Sundowner has an aileron to rudder linkage.    It helps
>> > coordination, but the plane won't slip as well as a PA-28.
>>
>> Ah, i didn;'t know they had that. Tripacers had it as well. Springs
>> so you could still cross them.
>>
>> Bertie
> 
>      Some 172s did, too. We have here a 172M that had the factory
> seaplane stuff installed (forward strut lugs on the firewall, diagonal
> braces behind the windshield, and the backside of all metal primed),
> and they included a couple of springs between the aileron and rudder
> cables in the belly. You hardly know they're there. I wonder if it was
> a means of avoiding an extra keel surface like you see on Beavers and
> some other floatplanes.
>       This one never did fly on floats.

Well, those are to compensate for the extra area out front. I wonder if 
land 172 had them. I haven;t got a whole lot of 172 time but I've never 
heard of those in any case.. 

Bertie
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