JD> I dont read the echo, but you must keep in mind that just because an
 JD> echo is not in y our list, does not mean that it has expired.  There are
 JD> many echos, not listed, and doing quite well.  That is something else to
 JD> keep in mind. --- SBBSecho 3.00-Win32

Upon reviewing what I think went on in this case the origional person thought
he was creating a new echo that existed outside of his hubs not knowing that
there is another one out there because some think an e-list is a trivial
means.

In this case Ben was not a mindreader... so either everyone starts listing
their echos or this may continue to happen.  No list on the echo then it
officially DOES NOT EXIST... or is not owned by any one moderator.

It only takes a second to put it in the e-list... and it will totally
eliminate misunderstandings.

Allen

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