Terry, I have been in computers MUCH longer than you have, I have had
email for longer than you have been in computers, so don't try the
"authority" fallacious argument.  

That fact does not make MY opinion any better, any more than it makes
YOUR argument any good   

Any idiot who argues that in some way being able to wire a board makes
them any more an expert on usenet fraud is clearly showing off their
incompetence.

SOME possible relevance is in my years of experience with usenet and its
predecessors, moderated groupmail and echoes - but actually, the real
days of fraudulent surveys are only the last few years.

You are a relative newcomer here, and you are QUITE welcome to answer
ANY scam on the net - What bothers me is that in your recent posts, you
seem to have become a shill, for scammers, and appear to be being paid.

Anyone who does not heed warnings not to fill out surveys for
unidentified sources will reap the consequences.  

Terry Stone wrote:
> 
> Ted,
>    I did not address the calling in issue and I do agree with you if
> they are using a PoP account you can get in.
>    Does she have an obligation to prove her self or are we so untrusting
> of others that we are always on the lookout to "shoot first" and check
> later?
>    You must have gone a different Syracuse then I did. I was told that I
> had to obtain this through the book store (that is access and an
> address) and there was a fee for it. I was also told that I did not need
> it as a distant student as I had an email address and access to the
> areas which I would need for class participation and research. They
> registered me under my home email address.
>     I can not answer the question on what she stated. I am guessing if
> she is a distant student and not on campus for a direct connect they may
> have well told her the same as I was told. I also do not know the
> school's policy on using outside access to their network - some do and
> some do not. The one I used required I have an ID/Password and use my
> home address as a cross reference. Do you know or have you checked with
> her school to obtain their policy?
>    I have 33 years in computers with everything from mainframe
> operations to LAN/WANS/MANS, as an operator, programmer, and
> teacher/instructor. I feel that I am quite literate with them but there
> are times when the policies and procedures at different locations make
> it darn near impossible to do anything.
> Terry
> 
> Ted Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > first:
> > it does NOT "cost to call in", you just put pop3.cord.edu in your mail
> > server list
> >
> > Second: we get LOTS of people without school addresses - most are
> > scammers - If she has any other way to verify her status, she could have
> > offered it, besides she did not claim to be a distance learning student,
> > merely living off campus.
> >
> > Third: Syracuse would have given you an email address if you had asked
> >
> > fourth:  She keeps claiming that students there DO NOT get email
> > addresses - patently false - and easily checked.
> >
> > It is QUITE POSSIBLE that she is just too computer illiterate to know
> > what she is doing, but we can't depend on that
> >