Eeyore  wrote in
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> user{at}nouse.org wrote:
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>> Some have said the plane just dropped from 200 feet, bull. That would
>> have meant a lot of very
>> serious injuries.
> 
> You bet.
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>> As far as the digital system (broad sense) goes, that's a good
>> suspect but I'm still unclear about this business of simultaneous
>> dual engine outage. It seems that no engines were available, alright,
>> but has anyone said they were both lost at the same time as
>> opposed to very far apart?
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> Yes they have. Simultaneous failure to respond to a demand for power,
> initally from the auto-throttle and then failure to respond to a
> manual movement of the throttles. Something electrical/electronic or
> software related looks very suspect right now. Some comment was made
> that the captain said he lost the avionics. 
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>> Can any 777 types tell from the pictures if all-engines landing flap
>> had been lowered? That would negate an engine-out approach before the
>> second one packed up.
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> It was in full landing trim.
Landing trim? 

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