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echo: aust_avtech
to: Roy Mcneill
from: Rod Speed
date: 1997-01-09 07:10:00
subject: Cardiac Arr

RM> It must be a real bastard of a decision to make. Eg: if my lovely
RM> 4yr old daughter Julia who can write sentences that I can read and
RM> can drive the vcr better than I can and who knows two fives is ten
RM> and who can identify Sirius and Canopus got squashed by a hitrun,
RM> and some lifeloving doctor suggested that her left lung could be
RM> used to help some stranger kid, I honestly don't know how I'd react.

BL> You are getting death mixed up with life! Dead is gone... you ought
BL> to be ashamed of yourself! You'd rather let a perfectly good set of
BL> organs rot and swell, turn green and stink, underground in a box while
BL> the rest of your sweet daughter turned corrupt with them, than let
BL> another human being use the kidneys to live a life, or the corneas to
BL> see, or heart lung and liver to give a full life to nothing but pain?

RM> The benefit to the living is obvious, I agree wholeheartedly.
RM> But asking me for her organs 10 seconds after she dies?

The problem is often that they choose to use life support on a kid
thats clinically dead, to improve the usefulness of the donated organs
too. That can produce more than a tad of severe brain fade in the
parents at times too. Coz it looks like it aint actually dead at all.

RM> What planet are you from??

Spong.

RM> It's easy to discuss coldly when we're not involved,

And plenty can do it even when they are too.

RM> but it gets different when things get personal.

For plenty, sure, not for everyone tho. Plenty are still
capable of the rational analysis even when personally involved.

RM> I offer as evidence your uncharacteristic lack
RM> of response to my recent abortion of a poem.

Thats what caused his heart attack you fool. Its YOUR fault.

BL> Dead is dead... and the usefulness of a dead body is
BL> an hour or so. After that, what remains is in *your*
BL> head, as memory alone. The dead meat is already going off.

RM> True, but what is in my head will not be cold and rational at that time.

With you, quite possible. Not everyone operates like that tho.

You get the same difference with dorks who go mental and blame
themselves for whats happened to the kid when anyone with half a
brain should be able to grasp that it just aint practical to say
always accompany every kid everywhere. There is always a small risk of
getting run over etc. Or falling out of a tree head first. Shit happens.

BL> I agree that people's wishes have to be respected, so I'd write
BL> a law that simply removed the choice. That way, there is no wish
BL> to respect, and if they don't like it they can root their boot. We
BL> are not allowed to *eat* the dead, so how is this any different?

RM> er.. are you sure you have your arguments straight?
RM> If you allow immediate automatic resumation of
RM> organs on death, why waste all that meat as well?

You arent allowed eat your dog either.
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