MB> Chris Holten wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:
CH> Mike, I don't know how long it's been since you ran NT 3.1,
CH> if ever, but as does NT 3.5x, NT 3.10 -definitely- runs with
CH> much less hardware than NT 4.0.
MB> I'm not talking about user perception, but unattended
MB> operation as a file server. In that capacity, NT 3.1
MB> is very slow compared to later releases.
That is a quite general statement that a person with your networking
knowledge should know is not an absolute "truth" and needs to be qualified
specific to the individual case. On small 10 user or less 10bt ethernetworks
with older hardware NT 3.10 is definitely not slower as a file/print server
than newer versions of NT. In fact with a 486-33, NT 3.10 might even be a bit
faster than than newer NT versions and -certainly- as far as networking, it's
going to be faster and more stable than 16 bit WFWG 3.11!! I -personally-
used NT 3.10 for over 1 year (which you obviously haven't), found that NT
3.10 as a file/print server in a small 10bt network on the same 486 class
hardware, isn't a damn bit slower than NT 3.5x or NT 4.0 (or noticibly slower
than novell 2.x and 3.x for that matter with 16 meg or more of RAM) and
certainly it is a -bunch- faster and more stable and secure than 16 bit DOS
and Windows for Workgroups which also has a 10 user limit and practically
-no- security at all. Methinks you are unrealistically and Ideally comparing
to something other than what the guy was going to be running in his network
and the amount of money he had to spend (NT 3.10 had already been paid for)
and the hardware he had to run it on (NT 4.0 needs a -bunch- more hardware
resources and faster disk hardware speed than NT 3.10 ever did). If he is
using WFWG as a file server, he can't have over 10 users. "Unattended"
operation and stability as a file server was NT 3.10 greatest point. The fact
of the matter is that NT 3.10 was optimized for network throughput at the
expense of desktop application speed. The only think NT 3.10 was slower at
than WFWG 3.1x was running desktop apps. As a file print server it was 3 to
10 times faster than WFWG.
And, I have found NT 4.0, even with service pack III to be less stable and
far more resource hogging than NT 3.10 or 3.5x which is why I only run it on
workstations and not as a file server, instead using NT 3.51 SP5 as my file
server.
MB> My advice stands: NT 3.1 is completely unsupported by
MB> Microsoft, it has huge and well known security holes,
Actually NT 3.10 is supported about the same as Windows for Workgroups 3.1x.
Of course support by MS for both NT 3.10 and WFWG has essentially been
stagnent for quite some time new.
MB> and the components which will be most heavily stressed
MB> in a server are peformance bottlenecks. It is
MB> reasonable to use NT 4.0, and it is also reasonable to
MB> use NT 3.5 in a network server, but I think using NT
On a 10 user or less 10BT network, what the hell "components" are you talking
about that will be "bottlenecks"?
MB> 3.1 is a clear and obvious mistake.
Mike, from your very biased negative comments about it using terms like
"disaster" and "obvious mistake", it's obvious to me that you really don't
have any close experience with NT 3.10 and probably not all that much with
Windows for Workgroups as a file/print server in a small network either (or
you forgot a lot). Shoot we are only talking about a small LAN (Not WAN)
network, and an already purchased copy of NT 3.10. It isn't like he was
setting up a 1000 user site with all the bells and whistles. All he wants to
do is share his goddam hardrive and printers with a few other LAN users. In
that situation, if he is seeking better network performance and stability
than his present WFWG file/print server setup affords him, NT 3.10 would be
well worth trying. As a network file/print server it will be much more stable
and much faster than WFWG. The only place it will be slower will be running
destop apps from the local console, but even doing that, it will be -much-
more stable than WFWG. It will probably run most of his 16 bit Windows and
DOS apps, but it may not run all of them ("backwards" compatibility is about
same boat as newer versions of NT). The only 16 bit software I have found
that newer versions of NT run that 3.10 didn't was 16 bit FAX programs, and
to get a higher level of backwards "compatibility" for that, you had to go to
at least NT 3.51 Service Pack III). Since he is running WFWG he won't have
any 32 bit apps that may not run as compared to newer versions of NT. NT 3.10
will migrate his WFWG Desktop and has a boot manager to allow him to dual
boot between WFWG/DOS and Windows NT should he desire.
--- Maximus/NT 3.01b1
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