Hi Cindy,
On , you wrote me:

 CH>> I have tried hypperterm with windows here and I find it strange in
 CH>> that you don't log off, you just close up the window.. So Imacs have
 CH>> this hyperterm too?

 ML>> hunh? i always sign off when i use hyperterm... on my bbs there's a
 ML>> sign/log off option plus a hidden one that i always use... it is much

 CH> Oh I 'sign off' that is hit the log off command but the screen does
 CH> not hang up ('no connection").. If I don't close the window it'll log
 CH> me back on. .......................

ahh... on which system? see, what's happening is that one, most likely the
bbs, isn't terminating the (telnet??) connection... this is very much like
the old problem where some dialup systems didn't drop DTR or otherwise get
their modem to drop carrier...

the problem isn't on the client (your) side... it is the BBS side that's
supposed to terminate when you select the "goodbye" option...

 ML>> nicer than simply dropping the connection... dropping the
 ML>> connection is kinda like if i came over to visit you and left by 
 ML>> way of the bathroom window without saying goodbye, eh? 
 ML>> ;)

 CH>  Well that wuold be hard on you if there's no window or open-able
 CH> window in there  But I get your point. I may be doing something
 CH> wrong if it's suppsed to 'no connection' when I aim to log off. Hmm.
 CH> I'll try it out soon. I have it just don't use it. (It came with
 CH> windows).

see above ;)

 ML>>> the key factor you need for transferring files is that the terminal
 ML>>> software you use can handle file transfers encapsulated within the
 ML>>> telnet stream... another nice factor is one that can handle ANSI
 ML>>> color codes _and_ the "IBM" character set...

 CH>>  Okay... i think..

 ML>> what part caused the "i think" comment?

 CH>   OH I don't know. YOu know those charts you use to get those
 CH> characers? aLT and a number on then numerical keypad do the trick?
 CH> Well how come the way the chart is there's no ALT and # at the top.
 CH> of the columns? It's somehting else. I never use that stuff anyway 
 CH> but used to for fun.. using wingding fonts can do the same thing. 
 CH> but ther'es no chart for the chars as per what key does what.
 CH> .............

ahh... i see what you're saying... just remember that the ALT-# thing
always returns the same code... the thing is that when you use other
character sets, like wingdings, the character set is simply laid over the
basic IBM one...

for clarification, the IBM character set is the one you get in plain old
DOS... in windows, it is the one you get when you use the
"system" font...

Bye bye!
  mark

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