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to: BRYAN SCHWARTZ
from: SCOTT MCNAY
date: 1998-03-14 20:55:00
subject: CMOS

 *** Bryan Schwartz wrote in a message to Dave Mcdonough:
BS> The CMOS holds its data when the computer is shut off
BS> because a small recharagable battery on the motherboard
BS> keeps it supplied with a tiny electric current. Let the
BS> battery run down by keeping the computer off for a long
BS> time. The time varies with the quality of the battery. The
BS> battery is usually strongly glued to the motherboard. Some
BS> people remove the battery when it no longer can be recharged
BS> by the computer, but it can be tricky. You might damage the
BS> motherboard trying to remove a permanently attached battery.
BS> Some batteries on a minority of 386 motherboards are
BS> external. They can be replaced easily. If you have a
BS> replacable battery, just disconnect it from the motherboard
BS> and the CMOS ( which holds the password ) will be erased.
BS> Otherwise, be patient. Unplug the computer and let it sit
BS> for a few weeks. Once the CMOS is erased ( and this will be
BS> very obvious since you'll have touble booting ) let the
BS> computer run for a day or two to recharge the battery. You
BS> will not be able to use it until the battery recharges. Now
BS> this is VERY IMPORTANT! Before allowing the CMOS battery to
BS> run down, or before removing a replacable battery, write
BS> down all the imformation held by the CMOS! Your computer
BS> needs this information to boot properly and to recognize all
BS> your gagets, like hard dirves, floppy drives, monitor etc.
BS> You should have a message on your screen when the computer
BS> boots, asking if you want to access the BIOS. This area will
BS> have the needed CMOS information. Write it all down! And
BS> don't loose it! Then shut down the computer, unplug it, and
BS> let it sit. Eventually the battery will run down and the
BS> CMOS, with the password, will be erased. Once you can boot
BS> without the password problem, let the computer run for a day
BS> or 2 to recharge the battery. Then access the BIOS area and
BS> type back the lost CMOS information. That's all there is too
BS> it, as far as I know. 
I've never seen a passworded CMOS that would allow one to look at the CMOS 
information.
There is a much faster way to do this, in most cases.  Many computers have a 
4-prong connector, often with the second pin missing, which is used to attach 
the external battery that you mention above.  Attaching a jumper to two of 
the pins (usually the last two) and waiting for a few minutes, will discharge 
the CMOS, wiping it out.  After a few minutes, remove the jumper and turn the 
computer on, to see if it did the trick.  On Packard Bell computers, there's 
often a separate password jumper connector; just attach a jumper, turn the 
computer on, and it should then tell you to turn the computer off and remove 
the jumper.  Do this, and turn the computer back on, and the password should 
be gone, but not the other CMOS information.
--Scott.
--- timEd 1.01
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