ML> well, since i was writing that when the moon wasn't up yet, it is
 ML> possible that you were looking at a star... Spica, i believe but i'll

 Only the siting was a planet. This was from an Observatory.
 
 ML> have to check to be sure... if it was Spica, then you'd have to look
 ML> further "up" to see jupiter... however things are a bit
different now
 ML> since things aren't like they were when i wrote my reply ;)

The observation was about 10 PM with a full moon. There's an
observatory an acquaintance worked at; this in UPstate NYS years ago..
when we lived up there. She said, if you see something fairly close off
to the upper left of the full moon, it's Jupiter. Don't ask me how
I remember this but I think it was in October.
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 ML> right, i understand... just for clarification, 180 degrees on the
 ML> compass is south, 90 is east, etc... also, 10 degrees in elevation is
 ML> about one fist width when held at arms length... make a fist like you

Okay.  I'll remember that. But what if your fist is bigger than mine.
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 CH> In Texas you had huge skyscape but would need to get away from the
 CH> city lights to see anything but the full moon and venus and of
 CH> course, by dawn, the sun >

 ML> yup... i've been there... spent many nights hiking the highway or
 ML> across country when i was out there... four days from orlando to
 ML> houston (!) ;)


 That long walk of yours you mentioned in another message? That's
 something. How about some adventures? We can pretend we've got a
 campfire here. I'll get the toasting sticks and marshmallows. Unless
 you'd rather have some beer and tortilla chips. Pretend the moon is
 is full, the night is long... it's cool, the wind calmed down...
 and somewhere a Coyote howls...
...............

 CH> It was in Texas I first saw the moon at the same time the Sun was up
 CH> (past 7 am in the summer).. that was awesome. I can't say how many
 CH> degrees above the horizon it was oh let's see... facing south and
 CH> the moon to the west I'd say it was about half way between the
 CH> horizon and straight up.

 ML> it is actually pretty common... now, seeing venus in the daytime is a
 ML> real feat! yeah, it can and has been done but you gotta know just
 ML> where to look and have some way of blocking the sun from your view :)

  I've seen Venus too in the early morning.
  Thing is Mark before we moved to Texas I never got
  up before dawn to take a walk ... :) That's why I had never noticed,
  and it was so wide open there as you know, no tree/hills in the way.


cindy

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