On 04-07-09, CHINACAT said to ROSS CASSELL:

CC>On 4/7/2009 3:45 PM, Ross Cassell wrote to Ross Sauer:


->  RC>> Can a person be an atheist, be indifferent towards those whom
CC>believe ->  RC>> and otherwise, letting everyone be as they choose?

CC>If you would be honest about it, you know they do.
->

->  RC>> Do other atheists launch into crusades to persecute or otherwise
->  RS> demean
->  RC>> those of religious belief?


CC>Uh, Ross, who is it here who is bringing in items from other echoes? This
CC>was never really an echo for religionists...but it is they who keep coming
CC>in threatening everybody with hellfire if we don't convert to what they
CC>believe.


Um........hold up on that whitewash, lady! You seem to be (conveniently)
forgetting the various `recruiting drives' by your peers to get people in here
so you and your hate-filled buddies could insult and revile them!


In fact.......Sauer and Chirnside were a couple of the highest profile
recruiters for this echo.


Hmmmmmm  .  . where's my little pad of Otto's `stuff'......ah! Here it is!


Pay attention!:


"Come on over to the echo that must not be named." .......Otto Sauer


That was a point in time when the moderator of the Politics echo (and the rest
of us too, for that matter!), got sick and tired of Otto and a few others
trying to lure individuals from Politics over here to be freely insulted and
reviled.


"Come on over to the religious food fight."  .....Otto Sauer


There's more of it. Thats Otto Sauer out recruiting for HolySmoke.


In all likelyhood, none of us would have shown up in here in the first place,
if it hadn't been for the fact that Sauer, Ceppa, that bird-brained jerk from
Canada who tried to off himself, and a few others in here weren't out there
urging us to come in here.


And then, when we finally did drift in here, you subjected all of us to the
most hate-filled trash-talk that ever got posted in Fido. And those who didn't
get outright banned by Quarella, just drifted out again.


You guys engaged in a couple of months of posting mutual pats-on-the-back for
`showing those fundies a thing or two', which diminished in frequency, never
imporved in content, until the echo pretty much died out.


So much for `discussing religion'.


CC>There's always a couple bad apples in the barrel but I'd take
CC>count of just how many there are of atheists when compared to the number
CC>who claim religion and I think you will find the scales very unevenly
CC>balanced on the side of 'you better believe or else'.


In the years I've been reading HolySmoke and other Fido echoes, I've never
seen any Christian lay that crap on anyone, including you!


I have seen some real nutcases come through here and other echoes spouting off
religious threats of hell and damnation, but most if not all of them were
probably fringe-sanity cases, or just ball-busters having fun.


I have never seen a real Christian believer in these echoes attempt to force
any of you religion haters to `get religion'.



CC>And Ross? I really would like an answer to that first question in the
CC>above paragraph. In fact, I'd still like an answer as to why the christian
CC>religion deserves any more respect than worshippers of zeus, odin or the
CC>flying spaghetti monster? You keep saying a person's religion needs to be
CC>respected but you don't ever say why.


Weren't you one of those idiot women out here in Fido who claimed to be Wiccan
or something?






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