11 Jul 08 13:32, Mark Lewis wrote to Roy Witt:

 ML>>>>> make a fist like you would if you were holding a
broom... your
 ML>>>>> thumb is at the top... hold your arm out with the
bottom of your
 ML>>>>> fist even with the horizon... the top of your fist
is about 10
 ML>>>>> degrees... now either move your fist up a bit so
that bottom is
 ML>>>>> where the top was or put your other fist on top...
now the top is
 ML>>>>> about 20 degrees up...

 RW>>>> What time is it at one fist above the horizon?

 ML>>> well... IIRC, each finger is about 15 minutes or so... so one
 ML>>> clenched fist would be about one hour...

 RW>> No, that would be 1 hour and 15 minutes. You've excluded the thumb
 RW>> in your calculations.

 ML> yup because it isn't on top taking up any space when i make a fist...

It is if you pretend you're holding a broom.

 ML> it is beside my index finger and bent at the knuckle so that it is
 ML> across my middle finger...

It shouldn't be, if you're holding a broom.

 ML> now, if i was holding it flat with my little finger toward the ground
 ML> and my thumb on top toward the sky, palm toward me, then i'd agree
 ML> with ya ;)

Depends on whether I'm holding a broom.

 ML> IME, only girls and girly-boys/men make a fist with their thumbs on
 ML> top of their index finger ;)

Only girls and girly-boys would pretend to hold a broom. :o) Real men grab
onto them and actually use them. :o)

 ML>>> as for the actual time, that would depend on the season but in
 ML>>> general, four fingers would indicate one hour after sunrise or one
 ML>>> hour before sunset ;)

 RW>> True. So if one knows the actual time of sunset or sunrise, one can
 RW>> tell pretty close to what time it is.

 ML> yup...

 ML>>> when i was in the scouts and we were doing this in the western half
 ML>>> of the sky, it meant that it was time to get camp set up... in the
 ML>>> morning, doing it in the east, it meant that it was time to break
 ML>>> camp and GTHOOD ;)

 RW>> I do this in the field when bird hunting. Shooting hours are
 RW>> enforced by the game wardens and they're scheduled around the rise
 RW>> and setting of the sun. 'no shooting until 1/2 hour after sunrise',
 RW>> etc...

 ML>>>  Weep not thou tenderfoot fair,
 ML>>>  Weep not for clocks or pie;
 ML>>>  There is no pastry in the air
 ML>>>  Nor doughnuts in the sky.

 RW>> And when, at early morning, A faint flush comes to me,
 RW>> Reflected from those glowing skies I almost weep to see;

 RW>> His spirit drinks with mine.

 ML> -=8-)

Tear jerker, huh...

                R\%/itt



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