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to: MURRAY LESSER
from: Albert Sodyl
date: 1999-11-03 21:24:00
subject: OS/2 2.1 IS dead.

Hey MURRAY LESSER, what's up?

MURRAY LESSER was heard grumbling this to ALBERT SODYL about OS/2 2.1 IS
dead.!

 ML> (Excerpts from a message dated 10-18-99, Albert Sodyl to Murray
 ML> Lesser)

 ML> Hi Albert--

Hello, Murray.

 ML> AS>I know OS/2 v2.1 are no longer supported, but I still need to
 ML> find >the latest fixpack for it because it's the only version that
 ML> I will >ever use, all other one's are very expensive to me, I got
 ML> 2.1 free >from a friend.

 ML> They were called "Corrective Service Diskettes" (not FixPaks) in
 ML> those days.  There were a few "patches" for OS/2 v 2.1 distributed
 ML> on Walnut Creek's "Hobbes" CD-ROMs for 1993 and 1994.  OS/2 v 2.11
 ML> was very short lived, having been replaced by Warp 3 shortly after
 ML> it arrived on the scene, but there was one CSD for v 2.11
 ML> distributed on the Hobbes CD-ROM for March 1995, and a few shown
 ML> on the Archived Hobbes CD-ROM for September 1997 (the most recent
 ML> one I have).  I haven't the slightest idea as to whether or not
 ML> any of these are still available.

Well I downloaded the latest one they had from the IBM FTP site... and it
seemed to work fine, plus when I installed it, it checked the floppy when
OS/2 started booting for some reason, and the shutdown screen was really
fixed and also the graphics change (when I change from SVGA to VGA or vice
versa) and many other things.  Too bad OS/2 still crashed :(

 ML> I have no recollection that I ever applied a CSD to OS/2 v 2.1
 ML> during the time I was using it (2.1 was largely a "bug fix" for
 ML> 2.0), and I am sure that I never "updated" to v 2.11.  I've never
 ML> believed in being the first kid on the block with a new operating
 ML> system, nor with an unneeded FixPak for that matter.  However,
 ML> sometimes there are valid reasons to update.

I _used_ to use 2.11 until it froze and screwed up the HPFS drive...

 ML> AS>I have to use os/2, it's my only choice, either that, or I'd be
 ML> stuck >to win 3.1 :(

 ML> Not a difficult choice to make.  Running an obsolete version of
 ML> OS/2 is always better than running an obsolete version of Windows.
 ML>  In either case, you may have Y2K problems, and you can't run any
 ML> programs that require a later version to operate.  Most certainly,
 ML> you would be better off with Warp 4 plus at least FixPak 5.  But
 ML> if this is not possible--

Not possible at this moment, I might be getting Warp 3 red box, unused for
$30 dollars.. not bad, I'm considering it.

 ML> If your current installation of 2.1 is running OK, why do you need

It's not running OK at all :(

 ML> any "FixPaks" for it?  Most CSDs in those days were to handle
 ML> problems associated with new hardware and the remaining bugs in
 ML> the programming interface (IMO, more bugs have been introduced by
 ML> FixPaks than were in the original code).  Early CSDs did not add
 ML> new features.

There are so many bugs in it that I find, I really want to use the Fixpaks
for it right now... but I can't, even though I already have them on
diskettes.  The thing is that OS/2 kept screwing up and screwing up, even
with te fixpak that it soon stopped booting, so I spent 2 day figuring it
out and re-installing OS/2 a thousand times!  Now I sort of got it ok, but
when I apply any fixpaks, I can't boot.  Also I need the fixpaks because
OS/2 freezes (sometimes freezes the windows way, no message or anything
just dead) whatever I do, and I can't do anything and I'm scared of
multitasking because whatever I do, will make a TRAP error :(



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