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to: MRO
from: Digital Man
date: 2022-12-30 17:42:00
subject: Ver. 3.19b and WinXP?

  Re: Ver. 3.19b and WinXP?
  By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Dec 30 2022 07:00 pm

 >   Re: Ver. 3.19b and WinXP?
 >   By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Dec 30 2022 01:35 pm
 >
 >
 >  >  > New people don't know how to update properly.
 >
 >  > "People" do it all the time.

 > bullshit.

How do you think all those sysops got to be running v3.19c on Windows?

 > i helped hundreds of people over the years.
 > I am not lying. i had to help tons of people.

And?

 >  > Because I don't make releases often enough? I don't buy that.
 >
 >
 > you could just put a fucking release file on the website that isnt broken.

Are you serious - because it doesn't run on XP, it's broken?

 > if you dont want to do it, i'll do it for you.

You have no idea what goes into making a Synchronet release for Windows.

 > It's like you are actually allergic to creating a release.

Nope, I just know what it takes to do it right.

 > In the past
 > you've gone years and years. Is there something really hard about it?

Yeah, a lot of testing on different systems and configurations.

 > Granted, this isn't as bad as when scfg and sbbsecho had problems in the
 > past, but I think you are a bit disconnected on this.
 >
 > It's your shit you can do what you want.

Oh geeze, thank you so much.

 > What I don't like is you don't want
 > to put yourself into those people's shoes.  I don't see why you won't put up
 > a perfect release on the web just for face.  I wouldn't be able to let it go
 > like that.

There is no such thing as "a perfect release" of any software of any complexity. There will be bugs. You just seem to have a particular peeve about this one.

 > You wouldn't do this with anything else.  Would you build a porch for
 > someone and leave a step out?  then they have to look on your website to
 > know that there's a stack of boards and nails behind the house?

Luckily, I don't build porchs.

 > It doesn't matter now because we have no users and very little sysops, but
 > i'm just wondering how you could be blind to how this affects newcomers.

I'm not blind. The Windows XP sysop could:
1. run the previous release (v3.18b), which I think worked fine on XP
2. run the development build (v3.19c at the time, now v3.20a), which also works fine on XP, as far as I know

The Windows XP sysop has options. I don't know why you're involved in the discussion at all - you said yourself they shouldn't be running Windows XP on an Internet-connected computer (e.g. a BBS).
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                                            digital man (rob)

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