Hello Oliver,

On Sunday November 17 2019 14:25, Oli wrote to me:

 MvdV>> So... speaking about improving things, moving forward and
 MvdV>> encouraging the use of new technology... How is your IPv6?

 OT> I agree that we would be better off, if the Internet had already
 OT> switched from IPv4 to IPv6. It's also important that Fido software do
 OT> support IPv6 connections and is not limited to IPv4.

So we agree on that.

 OT> I'm still curious why do you think it is important that every Fido
 OT> node is reachable over IPv6?

Did I say that? Well whatever, I suggest you read my Fidonews articles about
it. Hunt for "IPv6" in the Fidonews archive of the last decade. You will find
about a dozen articles. 
 OT> As long as systems are able to connect to each other what difference
 OT> does it make?

At the moment not much. But it will not stay that way. By implementing IPv6 we
are preparing fo the future.

 OT> Having more or less Fido nodes with IPv6 does not influence IPv6
 OT> adaption, this is something that Internet providers need to solve.

Customers pestering their ISPs /does/ influence IPv6 adaptation.

But that is not the goal. What happened to that pioneer spirit that once made
Fidonet grow exponentially? In those days one did not have to explain why,
sysops just did it. 
 OT> If we want to encourage the use of new technology, why don't we have
 OT> flags for TLS,

Because there are no Fidonet mailers that support it? The normal sewquence of
events is that the application comes first and then when it works, adding a
flag to the nodelist is considered.

If you think TLS is a good idea, by all means add TLS to binkd. It is open
source, so go ahead.

 OT> Tor hidden services (.onion) or i2p connections? ;) My FTN node at
 OT> home is only reachable over Tor, because I'm behind a carrier grade
 OT> NAT.

So how come? Are you on a mobile connection? TTBOMK, fixed ISPs in Germany do
not put IPv4 only connections behind CGNAT yet. Fixed IP is DS-Lite when the
IPv4 is CGNAT.

Anyway, you not having a public IPv4 address, should tell you something: that
IPv4 is running out. An excellent reason to ask your ISP for IPv6. Or switch to
one that does already support it.

 OT>  Connections over Tor are automatically encrypted

Binkd already has build in encryption...

 OT> and it doesn't matter if you connect over an IPv6 or IPv4 relay.

If you are behind CGNAT?

 OT> I don't think we should discriminate against any transport mechanisms
 OT> or strongly prefer one over the other. Whatever works.

I am not a member of the "more is better club". More mutually exclusive
connection methods are detrimental to connectivity. As a point you are not part
of the Fidoweb, which did not exist in the nineties when you were a node. As a
point you only need to connect to your Boss node. And outgoing only. So you may
not fully appriciate the value of universal connectivity...

Whatever... you have not answered my question: Hoe is your IPv6?


Cheers, Michiel

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