"Terry Roati -> Oli"  wrote:

 O>>>> Why should I get a node number in R24 when I already have

 O>> I was not the one who suggested I should get a node number. You
 O>> already know that I think the P4 is crap and my proposal is to
 O>> get rid of it. If you don't want to get rid of P4 there are
 O>> obviously only two options for that specific issue: rewrite the
 O>> P4 (start with 1.3.2) or ignore (parts of) the P4.

 TR> But you did ask the question (sort of).

 TR> So what is holding you back in joining fidonet, surely not P4?

I'm already a participant in Fidonet, I see no technical reason (at the moment)
to change my address from *.47 to *.0.

The P4 is another reason I don't the see the advantages for getting a node
number. Simple nodes (who are *Cs) couldn't vote for the approval or
disapproval of the P4. Unsurprisingly a node defined by the P4 has basically no
power. If I had a node number, I still couldn't vote for a new Policy.

So what's the point (of becoming a node)? People would find another aspect why
I'm unworthy of having an opinion they could constantly bitch about.

From now on I'm just ignoring the usual point bullying or other comments about
my status in Fidonet.

 TR> Saying P4 is crap and to get rid of it without something to replace
 TR> it doesn't make sense. What is needed is a sensible proposal that
 TR> will work and can be agreed with by the majority.

First step is to acknowledge that the P4 is crap. If that is not what the
majority agrees on, than I'm not the right guy to work out a so called
"sensible" proposal. It would be just a waste of time. Others here in Fidonet
experienced that before and lost any motivation to work on it again or already
left Fidonet.

I already wrote that most other communication networks don't have anything like
the P4 and they still work. For some reason it was not possible to create
smarter technology for distributing the nodelist, instead a hierarchical power
structure was established that became self-sustaining (ZC appoints RCs, RCs
elect ZC) with all the political and social implications and all the bullshit.
I came to that conclusion only recently, but other knew this a long time ago.
http://rxn.com/~net282/fidonet.bush.number.nine.txt

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