On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 20:48:18 +0100
"Ward Dossche -> Oli"  wrote:

 TR>>> There is no power in Fidonet, P4 hasn't changed so it's the
 TR>>> same as when I left it 16 years ago.

 O>> I'm not sure what you mean with "no power in Fidonet". Do you
 O>> believe that Fidonet is a perfect anarchy and abuse of power never
 O>> happened? I'm just reading some mails from 1993 about the coup in
 O>> R24 - history tells a different story.

 WD> 26 years ago ... very relevant ... of course. Nothing more recent?

I see, like the events that were enabled by the exact same policy we have today
and supported by the ZC2 and IC (in 1993) are not relevant. As the event of an
exploding nuclear power plant in 1986 was not relevant in 2011 and is totally
irrelevant today. Or concentration camps that are a thing of the past and could
never happen in a western country or in a country that produces our phones,
computers and the hardware Fidonet is running on ... oh wait ...

I know Fidonet is pretty irrelevant in comparison to that. These are just some
examples and I'm sure there are better ones. We shouldn't dismiss the past,
because it's not unlikely the similar shit will happen again, especially if
nothing had been done to prevent it.

 WD> You should read the mails when one Helmut Hullen (from your region,
 WD> should you be nodelisted) sued the hell out of Fidonet in a court of
 WD> law .. and lost.

And one paragraph later some story from the last millennium is relevant again
...

Why should I get a node number in R24 when I already have uplinks in R28 and
Z3? Just because Fidonet used POTS in a time that is not "relevant" anymore and
it still can get over it?

And now back to the conversation about sliced and salted animals and beverages
that taste like horse piss.

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