Hello Jeff, and Janis and Mike;

 -=> Quoting Jeff Snyder to Peter Coggon <=-

 JS> Hello Peter. Thanks for all of your various comments regarding the
 JS> Boy Scouts of America and the Explorers issue. It seems that you, Janis
 JS> and I all see pretty much eye to eye on this issue; that is, we all
 JS> find it totally unacceptable that they would be training mere 13 and 14
 JS> year olds to be doing these kinds of things. In spite of Mike's
 JS> explanations, I still find it outrageous what they are doing with those
 JS> children. My gosh, let them be kids. Childhood only comes around one
 JS> time, and then it is gone forever. They are trying to make these
 JS> children grow up too fast, and are burdening them with things for which
 JS> they are not mentally, emotionally, physically or spiritually prepared
 JS> for.

  Full agreement Jeff.   Well stated.
 
 JS> As you noted, one of the big problems is that the US Government and
 JS> the US military have long believed in might is right, and have too
 JS> often opted for brute force instead of relying more upon patient
 JS> diplomacy. As I have mentioned before, it is this bullying approach
 JS> which has caused the USA to be hated and despised by so many other
 JS> nations.

  My hints here, were not only the USA, but other countrys, and those
in the past, that have left the problem for the future to clean up.

Hated and despised by other nations, sort of fits the bill many countrys
faced in the past, and then they faced these nations in a war, which
I hope never comes.
 
 JS> Training these children to be little "Rambos", as you
said, is really
 JS> despicable. It is all a part of the American war mentality. I am
 JS> reminded of a verse I have shared before, written by King David in the
 JS> Old Testament. It says:

For some reason Jeff, I have an impression that they have in high schools
in the USA something in the system of the schools called ROTC or something
like cadet corps in school, and on visits I see this colour or color guard
in front of the school parades flag, guns and uniforms and teens of grade
nine, which I never see in other countrys.   As for the war mentality
well the cemetarys are well laid out to depict who fought and died in
what great war, from the Revolutionary up to the present, and frankly
it is sickening to glorify all this, as at the time, it was serious
as they are now.     As being there at a school I ran into your mentioned
american war mentality, as these kids tried to get my goat.

Enough said.... this could go on .

 JS> "I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war."
 JS> Psalms 120:7, KJV

King David, was a warrior king, so I can see him saying something like
this, after seeing, really nothing is accomplished by it.

 JS> Again, as Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers" . . .
and NOT the
 JS> warmongers!

Yes, thats what you wrote before. And what sparked the comments, which
I never found?   I did see Janis reply, but never got time to reply
and I am sure perhaps MIke had an idea in mind which may have just
came out and somehow got mixed the wrong way .... benefit of the doubt.

I note this week, that our government supplied ship is not back
this year, for the benefit of our local Sea Scouts, and as I
have already sold my two , I will not enjoy their company
nor Guides and Scouts earning badges this year as I think I
am moving this year.

Been home for about a month now, after an invitation to the
Middle East.   It has been quiet and really shows to me how
citizens around me really have not a clue to what is happening
in the world.     Our government, all of them in different 
countrys do this and that, and as long as it is quiet and
peaceful, and they can do this and that and no one says BOO.

Cause and effect ... Criminals or whatever...Terrorists or
Freedom Fighters or whatever, these people are making their
presence felt, and it will not be long before they slip
one by those watching.

Jeff, the most interesting ad is on the media.   Make sure
you have an Emergency Plan and can survive for 72 hours as
they predict that will be time for the local authorities to
reach you.   At local events they are even selling kits, and
all this leads me to wondering what is happening that we
are not seeing?   Oops off topic.   Better say  Bye

Peter
  




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