On 2019 Jun 26 11:55:24, you wrote to Bj”rn Felten:

 BF>> "Private listings impact each member of FidoNet, since they take up
 BF>> space in everyone's nodelist.  Private listings which are for the
 BF>> convenience of one sysop (at the expense of every other sysop in
 BF>> FidoNet) are a luxury which is no longer possible."

 DD> When that was written we had to "trim" the nodelist to "less than 1000
 DD> entries" and pay to move the nodelist.

interestingly enough, P1, P2, and P3 do not use the word "private" in them... 
all three policy documents do have an example nodelist using "Pvt" for private 
systems, though... this example nodelist is used as an example proposed 
nodelist for when a net or region proposes to split into a smaller unit...

 DD> Today the size is not an issue, most of us are not paying anything to
 DD> move it.

at least not outside the existing cost of maintaining an internet connection...

 BF>> Nowadays it seems to be, and has been, quite possible in certain
 BF>> parts of Fidonet for a long time...

 DD> Since "ION" became popular...

they've been used for longer than IONs have been around... my 1:3634/12 address 
was listed as a Pvt system when i moved to R18... i was a well known 
participant in several software support echos and generated quite a bit of 
traffic* with the support messages i posted... i could have been a point, sure, 
but there were no fidonet systems in my area...

it took several months before i was able to even get a response from a NC and 
then it wasn't from the NC that it should have been from... basically, i'm in 
the boonies... i applied to the raleigh net because they were an extended local 
call to me... never heard a peep from that guy... i decided to apply to the 
fayetteville net and see what happened... if that fell through, the greensboro 
net was the next target...

i got a response from the fayetteville NC within a day or two... i explained my 
situation to the NC and that i'd be making all the calls to deliver and pick up 
my mail... he didn't have any problem listing me as a Pvt node and the rest is 
history... i'm now the NC of that net and that net covers the entire state of 
north carolina...


* some days i might have written 100+ responses to support message requests... 
that after an 8+ hour day at $job... after a new version of the software was 
released, there were days when i'd write easily double that number of 
messages... i was damned good at what i did... most all my messages provided 
the page numbers and which paragraphs needed to solve the problem described... 
that freely given support and attention to detail garnered me requests to join 
the beta teams for those products... i'm not as fast as i once was and i don't 
drink near the c0ffee that i did back then either ;)

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